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The Times Tech Podcast

Jon Vlassopulos: "We're all nano-influencers"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2019

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent brings on Jon Vlassopulos to talk about the early days of digital music (3:30), investing in Napster (4:55), when ringtones were big business (10:20), getting into television with Deal or No Deal (16:15), Facebook’s interactive TV show (20:45), why lists are a good way to consume content (24:30), the problem with chronological feeds (27:00), how he plans to monetize lists (30:20), where journalists fit in this world (32:10),turning everyone into a curator (36:45), DJing in Beijing (39:45), creating community online (43:15), people as brands (48:00), and the future of the "interest graph" (49:15).

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0:00.0

Yo!

0:01.0

Technology.

0:02.0

What is it all about?

0:04.0

It would be nice as humans to actually publish things to the world that have residual value,

0:10.0

that don't disappear, and that could be potentially inspirational versus more kind of showing off,

0:15.0

look at me, look at me.

0:16.0

Yeah.

0:17.0

And that's how, you know, we generate connections between people, form these tribes, and ultimately find happiness.

0:28.5

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech.

0:35.5

This week on the program, we have a treat for you, John Vlasopoulos.

0:42.5

John is the founder of Tribalist, which is a new company that is betting that amid the online

0:48.4

maelstrom, we will increasingly rely on lists, put together by people we trust for stuff we want or just

0:57.1

interested in. Hence the name, tribal list. Get it? No, if you don't quite buy that,

1:04.5

or you're just intrigued by the idea, or you're increasingly frustrated by the way that

1:09.1

social media has kind of become the

1:11.2

organizing principle of the web as we know it.

1:14.9

You should have a listen because John has been right out at the edge of several industries

1:20.3

that have been completely disrupted in recent years.

1:23.6

So he was in the music industry way back when Napster burst on the scene. He was right at the beginnings of the digitization of that industry.

1:32.3

He was also early in mobile when that became the dominant way in which we consume all content.

1:37.3

He was in reality TV.

1:39.3

And now he's launched Tribalist here in San Francisco.

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