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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

Jon King of Gang of Four

Bullseye with Jesse Thorn

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Society & Culture

4.52.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

The post-punk band Gang of Four was an unstoppable force of danceable beats, abrasive guitar work and unflinchingly political lyrics. Formed in the late 70s in Leeds, England, core of the operation was vocalist Jon King and guitarist Andy Gill. King and Gill were childhood friends and lifelong collaborators, and their work influenced a generation of rock music. Bullseye guest host Jordan Morris interviewed King about the band's box set, Gang of Four 77-81, as well as his early influences and what it's like to be sampled by Run the Jewels.

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Bullseye with Jesse Thorn is a production of MaximumFun.org and is distributed by NPR.

0:20.4

It's Bullseye, I'm Jesse Thorn.

0:22.4

The band Gang of Four formed in the British city of Leeds in the late 70s. There were contemporaries

0:28.3

of other post-punk bands from that era like Joy Division, Wire and the Fall. Maybe you've

0:34.1

heard of Gang of Four, maybe you haven't. Either way, it won't surprise you when I say

0:38.8

that Gang of Four influenced a lot of rock bands. That just kind of goes with the territory

0:45.0

of being a successful post-punk band, which Gang of Four is. They were abrasive, danceable,

0:51.8

unapologetically, politically. What's unique about Gang of Four, though, is the sheer breadth

1:09.6

of their influence. You'll hear that influence in indie bands like Liars and Block Party,

1:15.3

but also in the Red Hot Chili Peppers and Nirvana and REM. And you'll hear Gang of Four

1:21.0

Song sampled in the music of Moby for Frank Ocean or even on the New Run the Jewels.

1:34.4

Gang of Four carried on in a handful of iterations, but the core of the band remained more or

1:40.1

less the same, guitarist Andy Gill and vocalist John King. Gang of Four never really disbanded

1:48.1

until last year, when Gill died suddenly at 64 of pneumonia and organ failure. His

1:55.7

widow suggested he may have been an early victim of the COVID-19 pandemic. This year,

2:01.5

the indie label Matador Records is re-issuing the work of Gang of Four. Gang of Four 77

2:07.7

through 81 is a four-record box set that revisits and elevates some of the band's most important

2:13.6

releases, including their debut, Entertainment. Ahead of release, my friend Jordan Morris

2:19.5

sat down with the singer John King to talk about the band, its legacy, and what it was

2:24.0

like playing danceable music at punk rock shows. Here's another Gang of Four classic,

2:29.8

damaged goods. John King, welcome to Bullseye. So Gang of Four gets categorized as a punk band

2:56.4

or a post punk band, but there's so much going on in the music. It is such a rich, hardy

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