Final four Saturday night in Indianapolis.

Two good ones. Illinois, Yukon, followed by Arizona, Michigan.

Arizona, Michigan feels like a national championship matchup.

John Crispin is with us.

John calls games for ESPN, NBC, Peacock.

John was a really good college basketball player.

One of my favorite things to say when John's on the show is John not only scored

62 points in a high school basketball game, but his grandfather, Cliff, still owns

the Maryland State High School Boys Basketball single game scoring mark.

He scored 79 points in 1956, and as we've talked about before,

I'm pretty sure there was no three-point line, but I don't think I've ever asked you,

was your grandfather a really good shooter?

I'm assuming he was.

Yeah, he was one of the few that actually shot jump shots.

Back then.

I think, like, yeah, back then. Like, he actually would pull up from 10 feet and shoot a jump shot.

And I have this image of, there's a movie semi-pro. I don't know if you've seen it,

where in the movie, they had the first L.Upe Dunk. And I have this image of my grandfather in some way in the 50s, being the guy pulling up for jumpers and everyone's like, whoa, what is that? What is that? What is he doing? Like, is that legal? Like, should we check the rule? Yeah, it's okay. You could do that. So he had more of a, we'll not call it a three-level scoring game. It was still more a two-level scoring game. But to score 79 points. And oh, by the way, we tried to taunt him a little bit. If you could even do that to your grandfather. He never said much about his career. but we try to say like, yeah, well, who'd you do it again? You know, sisters of the poor, you make up one of the other things. He goes, no, they were pretty good. They had two division one guys on their team. Oh, wow. All right. But, John, it was because back then everybody shot a set shot, right?

Yes, yes.

And it was like not exactly fluid.

The game itself wasn't all that fluid.

It was very your turn, my turn.

...