Hi there, I'm Chris Duffy, host of How to Be a Better Human, another TED podcast.

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Hey worklifers, it's Adam Grant. Welcome back to Taken for Granit, my podcast with the TED Audio

Collective. I'm an organizational psychologist. My job is to think again about how we work,

lead, and live. Today I'm talking to musician John Betteest. He dominated the music awards this year,

winning five Grammys, including Best Album, beating out Taylor Swift and Billy Eilish.

John is also won an Academy Award for his Composing on the Pixar Film Soul, and in his spare time,

he's the band leader and musical director for the late show with Stephen Colbert.

So it's safe to say he knows a little something about finding your creative muse.

Tell me where you were when you got the news. I'd love to hear the story of what happened and how

you reacted. I never expect any nominations. I always once I put it behind me. I really feel that

that's the only way that I can move forward as an artist. So when they said my name, I said,

oh wow, we win there. We got two. That's great. I'm good with two. That's more than I was expecting.

And it kept going, man. Every time by the third or fourth time, after those two, it started to feel

like they were trying to prove a point. This is six, seven Grammys. We're approaching history.

These are across all of these different genres. Oh, what? You mean it's nine? Okay.

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