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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

JoJo Siwa 2 Hours Before Celebrity Big Brother EXCLUSIVE: I Wasn’t Emotionally Abused On Dance Moms - "I’m Not Going To Say Who It Was!”

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Leisure, Relationships, Society & Culture

4.8652 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

Just 2 hours before entering the Celebrity Big Brother house, JoJo Siwa sat down for one of her most raw and revealing conversations yet. Who is JoJo Siwa? In this powerful episode of We Need To Talk, the self-proclaimed “CEO of gay pop” opens up about the cost of growing up on Dance Moms, the pressures of childhood stardom, and why she won’t “give Abby her flowers.” She reflects on the moment her confidence dropped on screen and how it felt being the internet's “punching bag.” Before entering the Big Brother house, Paul asks how JoJo deals with people she doesn’t agree with - a question that now holds new significance after her viral clash with Mickey Rourke. JoJo addresses the controversy following the release of Karma and shares how she’s taking full control of her creative journey. She speaks candidly about falling in love, reclaiming her identity, and leaving behind the version of herself the world thought they knew. From Dance Moms to Big Brother, from glitter and bows to bold reinvention - this is JoJo Siwa like you’ve never seen her before. Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod  Follow JoJo here: Instagram - https://g2ul0.app.link/RmSKBmOXySb TikTok - https://g2ul0.app.link/ZHFgDDQXySb  (00:19) Jojo's Imminent Big Brother Arrival (00:48) Is Jojo Scared of the Public Seeing a Different Side to Her? (02:45) Would Jojo Describe Herself as Someone with a Strong Personality? (03:25) How Will Jojo Manage Conflict in the BB House? (05:14) A Message from Jojo's Mum (07:33) Jojo's Childhood in Omaha, Nebraska (11:59) What Made Jojo Fall in Love with Dancing? (13:23) How Did Jojo Get on Dance Moms? (14:57) Why Does Jojo Think She Was So Successful on Dance Moms? (17:30) Did Jojo Need Validation When She Was 11 on Dance Moms? (19:14) Was Jojo 'Emotionally Abused' During Dance Moms? (25:42) Jojo's 'Ice Cream Story' (29:21) Was Jojo's Bow Branding Intentional? (31:52) Jojo's Bow Merchandise (33:50) Jojo Pivoting from TV to YouTube (36:54) Jojo's Perspective on Her Social Media Output (39:13) Shopify Ad (40:26) Tinder Ad (41:21) Did Jojo Have Difficulty Distinguishing Between Her Real Self and Her TV Persona? (44:43) Jojo's Experience of Bullying Online and In-Person (51:10) What Caused Jojo to Lose Confidence Over Time? (54:02) Jojo's Self-Consciousness About Her Singing (58:28) Jojo's Journey with Her Sexuality (1:06:04) The Process of Jojo Coming Out to the Wider Public (1:14:53) Jojo's Current Romantic Relationship (1:18:41) What Would Jojo Be Without Her Mother? (1:20:38) Jojo's Perspective on Motherhood (1:22:28) What Does Jojo Want Viewers of BB to Learn from Her? (1:23:23) What Is Most Misunderstood About Jojo? (1:24:01) The Controversy Around 'Karma' (1:26:53) Most Memorable Conversation (1:31:17) Paul's Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk  Tinder: https://tinder.com/en-GB Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So before we get into this conversation with Jojo, I want you to hit subscribe, join our community, and that way you will be notified every time we have a phenomenal guest like Jojo.

0:14.9

You have two hours, essentially. In two hours, you're going to be in the Big Brother.

0:24.6

Yeah.

0:25.9

So first is, this is wild that you're here.

0:28.0

Yeah.

0:28.9

So why is this your first stop?

0:31.1

My partner was like, you're doing a podcast before you go into the house? That's the last thing you're doing before.

0:36.0

And I was like, yeah, why not?

0:38.3

Why not?

0:38.9

Why not?

0:39.5

What have I got to lose?

0:40.6

There's a lot of people who cannot wait to see you in the house.

0:44.4

And I think part of it is they want to see, like, who you don't see.

0:49.2

Exactly.

0:49.7

Yeah.

0:50.2

So is there anything that you are scared about or your fear for me?

0:55.5

No, I'm not really scared of anything.

0:57.9

I am very excited.

0:59.7

I'm very curious.

1:00.8

I've always been an open book.

1:02.9

But I think with being an open book, I've always been the one deciding what goes out when.

1:08.6

You know what I mean?

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