John Thompson vs. American Justice
The New Yorker Radio Hour
WNYC Studios and The New Yorker
4.2 • 6.2K Ratings
🗓️ 30 March 2018
⏱️ 56 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I'm David Remnick. This is the New Yorker Radio Hour. The United States is a country founded on the rule of law. |
| 0:13.8 | Where we're innocent until proven guilty, where we have the right to a trial with a judge acting as a referee |
| 0:19.4 | to make sure that everyone's playing fair. |
| 0:22.3 | Now, none of us are stupid. We all know that it doesn't always happen that way, but by and |
| 0:26.6 | large, most of us feel like the system works or should work in a certain way. But what if not |
| 0:32.7 | everyone is playing fair? What if the way we define fair turns out to be not fair at all? What if the deck is |
| 0:39.7 | stacked on every hand? Today on the New Yorker Radio Hour, we're going to spend the entire |
| 0:44.8 | show on one story, a story of crime and punishment that will make you think very hard about |
| 0:51.0 | how we do justice in this country. It comes to us by way of our staff writer Andrew Morantz, |
| 0:56.9 | and for Andrew, it starts right at home. So my wife, Sarah Lustbader, she's a lawyer, and for a long |
| 1:04.3 | time she was a public defender in the Bronx. And, you know, you often hear about public defenders. |
| 1:08.8 | They're overworked. Their job is so difficult. And that is all true. But another thing that she often said, you know, at the dinner table is not only is the job hard, it's like I feel like I'm fighting with one hand tied behind my back, basically. Like this does not feel like a fair fight. Actually, what I think I said to you was I have to fight my cases with one hand tied behind my back and blindfolded. |
| 1:30.5 | I think you forgot that. |
| 1:31.3 | Yeah, okay. |
| 1:32.1 | Objection sustained. |
| 1:35.0 | Yes, this is true. |
| 1:37.0 | And I think it takes even defense attorneys by surprise sometimes just how imbalance the system is. |
| 1:42.4 | If you watch Law & Order or any other crime show, you imagine the two sides walk into the |
| 1:47.0 | courtroom with the defense and the prosecution, each having the same set of facts, |
| 1:51.7 | and they make their best case with the evidence. |
| 1:54.5 | Is that right? |
| 1:55.5 | Sort of? |
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