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Hi, and welcome to the Longview. I'm Christine Ben's Director of Personal Finance for Morningstar. And I'm Jeff

Patak, Chief Ratings Officer for Morning Star Research Services. Our guest this week is John Rogers, Jr.

John is chairman, co-CEO, and chief investment officer of aerial investments, the firm he founded

in 1983. John is the lead portfolio manager of the Ariel Fund,

and also co-manages other aerial strategies,

including aerial small-cap value,

small mid-cap value, mid-cap value,

as well as aerial appreciation.

John sits on several corporate boards,

including the board of directors of McDonald's, Nike, and the New York Times, and serves as vice chair of the University of Chicago's Board of Trustees.

In 2008, John was given Princeton University's highest honor, the Woodrow Wilson Award for his work in civic and philanthropic circles.

John received his bachelor's degree from Princeton.

John, welcome to the Longview. It's great to be here. It's a great name for this. Well, thank you.

We try to go in depth with our guests. We wanted to start by talking about diversity, equity,

and inclusion. We've seen a huge move toward DEI issues by fund companies. When they ask you

as a pioneer in this area, what they should do to promote best practices around DEI, what do you

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