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So, John, you seem to be evolving as a man.

This is my outside observation, but as a man and an artist you want you grew up and you've

said in our last interview you wanted to be a country music star you want to write a lot of songs

you wanted a chart sell a lot of records did all that but you seem to be i don't know on some kind

of new mission am i imagining that and if i'm not'm not, what is it? No, you're not

imagining it. A few years ago, I started to contemplate the difference between success and

significance. And they are different. Sometimes they intersect where something significant or

something successful, they interact.

But I spent three decades of my adult life and self-service competing in the music industry to be successful.

And so to me, success in the music industry, I had really high bars. I had set like I want to be successful. And so to me, success in the music industry,

I had really high bars.

I had set like I want to be songwriter of the year,

for instance, in Nashville.

That's something I, that's like the coveted award because there's thousands of songwriters in Nashville.

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