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Zach Sang Show

John Oates Talks Hall & Oates, Man Eater, Rich Girl and New Album "Oates"

Zach Sang Show

Sangasong, LLC

Tv & Film, Music

4.7658 Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Hall & Oates are the biggest selling American duo in music history. Let that just marinate for a second. The iconic pair made waves through the 70s and 80s with songs like ‘She’s Gone,’ ‘Rich Girl,’ ‘Private Eyes,’ ‘Maneater,’ and ‘I Can’t Go For That (No Can Do),’ to name a scant few, and while they continued to release albums well into their fourth decade, by 2023 they were locked in an acrimonious lawsuit with regards to Oates wanting to sell his stake in their business partnership. As of August 2025 the charttopping duo have resolved the issue, but this is of course a topic we touched upon when the legendary guitarist and songwriter stopped by the studio for the first time.


Where his last solo album was an exploration of his folk/blues/Americana roots, for his newly released seventh record, Oates, he pulls from his more groove-based back catalog, teaming up with and being inspired by young artists like Lawrence and Devon Gilfillian. As well as discussing all this, he also shares once in a lifetime encounters with Madonna, Andy Warhol, and Michael Jackson, the power music and visuals (in particular pertaining to 500 Days of Summer), his time as an Anteater on The Masked Singer (no, really), the stories behind songs like ‘Rich Girl,’ and their second LP Abandoned Luncheonette, plus so much more.


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0:00.0

Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.co.

0:05.5

That's audible.co.uk slash wondery.

0:12.9

Hi, beautiful human. I am Zach. That is Dan. And clearly we are in the presence of a legend.

0:22.2

One of a kind. They don't make human beings like this anymore. One half of Hall & Oates. He sold over 80 million records. Say hello to John O.

0:30.5

Hey. Hi. I don't know where I'm looking, but where I'm looking. Hi, everybody. Well, thank you for including me in the beautiful human character.

0:37.8

I think you did.

0:38.5

I'm not sure.

0:39.4

100% of course.

0:41.2

Beautiful, beyond measure, genuinely.

0:43.7

And has created records

0:44.8

that have brought out

0:45.9

the beautiful sides of many, many people.

0:48.1

Genuinely.

0:48.6

You supplied a soundtrack

0:50.2

to American society

0:52.6

and global society.

0:53.7

It's pretty crazy. It is nuts. Like, does that,

0:57.0

I want to get into the new album, but like, do you think at all in your life about the, the, the size and

1:04.7

magnitude of the catalog that you, you have under your possession? I'm aware of it, of course.

1:09.0

You know, but I will say that back in

1:11.6

the day when I was just starting out, I never in a million years dreamed that I'd be, you know,

1:17.3

where I am today, still doing what I'm doing. It wasn't a goal, but it also wasn't part, it wasn't

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