John Mearsheimer on the End of Israel, Susan Abulhawa on October 7

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🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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We're joined by Palestinian novelist, writer and activist Susan Abulhawa, political scientist John Mearsheimer and Dr. Dhiaa Daoud, MD, an emergency medicine physician currently aboard a humanitarian flotilla to Gaza, joining healthcare workers, journalists, and international parliament members to break the siege and shed light on the ongoing humanitarian crisis. For the full discussion, please join us on Patreon at - https://www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-full-dr-140709512 Susan Abulhawa is a Palestinian-American writer and activist whose novels, including Mornings in Jenin and Against the Loveless World, have been translated into dozens of languages and widely acclaimed. She is also the founder of Playgrounds for Palestine and the Palestine Writes literary festival. John J. Mearsheimer is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago and a leading realist scholar of international relations. A West Point graduate and former U.S. Air Force officer, he is the author of numerous influential works on U.S. foreign policy and power politics. Dr. Dhiaa Daoud is a Palestinian-American emergency physician and humanitarian. His work in Gaza during the 2024 war inspired him to found the Doctors for Hope Foundation, which provides medical care and rebuilds essential infrastructure. He is currently aboard a humanitarian flotilla to Gaza. **Please support The Katie Halper Show ** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - / thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: https://x.com/kthalps Follow Katie on Instagram: / kthalps Follow Katie on TikTok: / kthalps

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0:34.1	sneak peeks at my upcoming documentary feature film and more.
0:40.9	Hello and welcome to the Katie Halper Show. We have an amazing show for you tonight.
0:45.3	We're going to be speaking during the second half with John Meersheimer and Susan Abouhawa, who is a novelist and activist, and I highly recommend her novels and her writing. And we are also
0:57.0	speaking to a brave doctor. Dr. Dawood is on a flotilla. He is one of the people trying to break
1:04.5	the siege. And we're so appreciative of that and that activism and that tireless spirit. Welcome, Dr. Daoud.
1:12.7	Hi, Katie.
1:13.4	How are you doing?
1:14.1	It's really nice to be in your show.
1:16.1	Thank you.
1:16.5	Well, thank you so much for coming.
1:17.9	I wanted to ask you, you know, to start off,
1:20.0	what motivated you to take part in this flotilla
1:23.3	and what your aims are in taking part in this flotilla?
1:27.4	Honestly, what motivates me is what's happening. and what your aims are in taking part in this flotilla.
1:33.7	Honestly, what motivates me is what's happening in Gaza right now.
1:37.6	A genocide has been going on over there for two years,
1:42.7	imprisonment of a whole entire population for almost 20 years.
1:49.3	This is something unheard of, and then also occupation over the past 80 years.
1:54.5	You know, the whole world is in shock about what's going on over there in Gaza.
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