Hello and welcome to the political orphanage, a home for plucky misfits and problem solvers. I'm your host, Andrew Heaton, and I have been trying to interview

John McWhorter for about three years now, and I finally got him. He's got a book out and we're going to talk

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All right, let's talk to John McWorder.

I am very excited to speak to my guest today that is John McWarter.

He is a professor of

linguistics a thought leader and the author of woke racism how a new religion has

betrayed black America Dr McWorder thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me.

So first question I've got for you is you kind of come into national prominence as a thought leader

specifically dealing with race relations.

You are a linguistics professor though and I the only other linguistics

professor I can think of as Nome Chomsky does linguistics just make intellectuals is it something that

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