John J. Lennon — "I'm Owning My Sh*t on the Page"
The Gist
Mike Pesca
4.4 • 3.6K Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 50 minutes
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Summary
John J. Lennon, currently incarcerated at Sing Sing Correctional Facility, discusses The Tragedy of True Crime: Four Guilty Men and the Stories That Define Us, arguing that true crime's fixation on innocence obscures the harder stories of guilt, punishment, and change. He describes refusing to be branded "Inside Evil" on Chris Cuomo's show—and how that exploitation pushed him toward critiquing the genre from within. Lennon explains why he writes himself beneath the other men he profiles—even as he's "owning [his] sh*t on the page" so he can have a life when he gets out. Also: an analysis of the odd-bedfellows coalition pushing to force a House vote on releasing the Epstein case files.
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| 0:00.0 | It's Wednesday, November 12th, 2025 from Peachfish Productions. It's the gist. I'm Mike Peska. |
| 0:09.3 | You ever hear? Well, it might make sense, even if Donald Trump says it. Of course, you hear that. I think that. Penny, straws, 20 living hostages, these all make sense. Even just today, he was getting into a spat with Laura |
| 0:21.0 | Ingram. Okay, on that, I don't know who I'm going to naturally defer to, but he made more sense |
| 0:25.6 | than her. He was talking about H-1B visas. So, you know, might make sense despite or coincidentally |
| 0:32.4 | with the agreement of Donald Trump. Some other people, it's even a harder stretch. Makes sense, even though Marjorie |
| 0:39.9 | Taylor Green says it. I don't know. I don't know how many times I've said that to myself. I'm sure |
| 0:44.9 | Marjorie Taylor Green is once told someone don't swim 15 minutes after eating. So yeah, that makes |
| 0:49.9 | sense. But what about when Lauren Bobert says it? I met Lauren Bobert very short in real life, |
| 0:56.3 | looking for a fight. Yeah, not a lot makes sense even though she says it. And then what about the |
| 1:01.2 | multiplier effect of Lauren Bobert, Marjorie Taylor Green, and let's throw in Nancy Mace, for example, |
| 1:09.4 | late Nancy Mace, not when she came to Congress and seemed normal. |
| 1:12.8 | And what about if those are the only three Republicans saying it, along with constant |
| 1:20.0 | Republican apostate Thomas Massey? |
| 1:22.3 | You have a coalition of those four, and you're asking me if it makes sense. |
| 1:27.4 | And there are the four saying it. |
| 1:29.3 | Ooh, this is hard, but let me read this news item to you. |
| 1:32.4 | The Trump administration was planning to meet about an effort in the U.S. House |
| 1:36.4 | to force a vote on releasing Justice Department case files related to Jeffrey Epstein. |
| 1:42.8 | On Capitol Hill, three Republican House members, Bobert, |
| 1:46.9 | Marjorie Taylor Green, and Nancy Mace have signed onto an effort from Rep. Thomas Massey, |
| 1:52.8 | and also Rocahanna, who's a California Democrat, to force a vote on the release of the files |
| 1:58.3 | on the House floor. This is called a discharge petition. |
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