Quick, who do you think of when I say legal thriller?

John Grisham of course, and he'll be here to talk about his latest book, The Whistler.

It's a, um, old-fashioned legal thriller.

I have a corrupt judge and some corrupt people around her and some dead bodies and all

kinds of good stuff.

How did the whole idea of special operations forces get started?

Ben McIntyre will join us to talk about his new book, Rogue Heroes.

French, Belgian, Commonwealth, New Zealand, Australia and special forces are all based on

sterling the original idea.

So it has a legacy that really does run all the way down to today.

And we'll also talk about what we and other people are reading.

This is Inside the New York Times Book Review.

I'm Pamela Paul.

It's a great pleasure to have in the studio today, John Grisham here to talk about his latest

novel, The Whistler.

John, thanks for being here.

Happy to be here.

Thanks for having me.

It's a, um, old-fashioned legal thriller.

Uh, there's no serious, uh, legal issue or story of social injustice or wrongful conviction

or death.

All the stuff I've been writing about for the past ten years.

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