From the New York Times, this is the interview. I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

Whatever happens this election, Democrats are going to be in a moment of transformation.

The party has been united in defeating former President Donald Trump,

but that focus has masked real fissures on the left,

and at the intersection of many of them, sits John Fetterman.

Pennsylvania's junior Democratic senator gained early political fame as the towering and tattooed mayor of the working class town of Braddock

before he was elected lieutenant governor of the state in 2018.

Four years later, he defeated the Trump endorsed Celebrity Doctor Mehmet Oz in a tight Senate race.

That, despite suffering a stroke just months

before the election.

But Federalman's time in the Senate

has been bumpy.

On the personal front, his stroke has caused him difficulties with auditory processing, which

you might hear a bit in our conversation.

He uses an iPad and transcription software to help with his listening comprehension.

He's also been very public about seeking inpatient treatment for depression early in his

term.

And on the political front, his position in the party has become complicated too.

Early on, he branded himself as a progressive champion.

He was an advocate of the $15 minimum wage and criminal justice reform.

He was endorsed by Bernie Sanders.

But over the past two years, he's clashed with both mainstream and progressive members of his party.

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