We'll touch on the derby in a second, but John, of course, also a big basketball guy.

Always good having you on the show. Johnny, how you been, pal?

Greg, I've been great. It's wonderful to see your face, wonderful to be with you.

And yeah, just a little bit of a big one.

Tonight's time for the Knicks to put their foot on the gas pedal here and close this thing out.

Yeah, let's do a little game five.

I thought game four was exactly what we've all been yelling and screaming for,

A from Carl Anthony Towns specifically, and from Mike Brown,

but the Atlanta Hawks do not have a legitimate center.

Their biggest guys, typically 6-9.

And what you saw in game 4 was a commitment from tip to final whistle,

we're going to get the ball into the low post to our big guy

and let him dominate the game.

And to Carl Anthony Towns' credit, had a triple double,

and was the best player on the court. And the most important player on the court for not just this series, but for the Knicks to make

the NBA finals is Kat. It's Carl Anthony Towns. He determines their ceiling. And his activity falls on coach and player. Look, he's a long time

all-star in this league. And when he is on, guys, you both know this, he's one of the games best.

Not just one of the better players, no, he has superstar mold. At this point, for them to not give him touches for the duration of

the 48 minutes and where, first off, if you have to take this to a seventh game, I fully believe

the Knicks are going to win this series, but at this point you should be thinking, we just

did that to them in their building in game four. We need to take this in six games. It shouldn't even gotten to this point. But at this point, you should be thinking, we just did that to them and they're building in game four.

We need to take this in six games.

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