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Follow up on not just on the nature of this arrest,

but also what was the underlying issue that was being protested.

I know he's been on the front lines of fighting deed theft.

Greatest American hero theme, John Shell loves this song.

And before that, of course, you heard the mayor.

Dickhead Mayor, Mamdany, talking about deed theft.

And I know some people actually think it's a worthwhile cause protesting that.

The cause wasn't the issue, at least according to Frank Morano early this morning,

or when the cops come and tell you to do something, you do it.

It's really that simple,

right? All the folks that die comply, you don't die. That's the case 99% of the time. Just listen.

But when you got a guy like Chi Ose, the city council member, as I mentioned this morning, is a black guy with a chip on his shoulder. I'm going to do what I want. And if, you know what, if I get arrested or if I'm going to claim it's racism, I'm a victim. That's what she does. A lot of folks in the city do. It's gross. And the mayor, God forbid the mayor should ever, ever, ever back a cop. Who knows better than my next guest. Dear friend of mine, love this guy. Chief of department formerly, John Shell. John, good morning, buddy. How are you? Shit, how are you, but I just want to start by saying that story about you having to go to a bathroom outside the bar. Broke my heart. Been there many times. Really? You've been to the rail? No, I've been outside bars, right? Okay. So my point is, I'm going to challenge you now, if we get into this story about this moron. You didn't jet down the alleyway, old school, like you were in Poly Prep? I would have, and I did. I'm not going to lie, but it's actually a cute residential neighborhood.

So there was nowhere to go. Do you know it's funny to bring that up? That there's a story in

today's New York Post that talks about how New York may start, start cracking down on public

urination because people are very upset. And I got to tell you, and I mean this. Yes, there have been

times in my younger days I'd be drunk in the city and I'd pee on a wall. I'm not proud of that.

But me, as an adult now, walk in the streets, I hate it. I hate and people just do it. Now you see

the homeless, they actually just defecate right there in the street. And if you don't believe that's part of the quality of life in this city, which Jessica

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