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Edge of Sports

John Carlos: “Follow Kaepernick to the Rainbow”

Edge of Sports

Dave Zirin / The Nation

Sports, History, News, Politics, Sports News

4.8619 Ratings

🗓️ 28 September 2016

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

We bring sports and politics icon John Carlos in-studio to talk about how it feels to see a new generation of athletes replicate his anthem protests of 1968. Dr. Carlos - who is having a wild week - also speaks to us about the opening of the new National Museum of African American History and Culture where he was part of the unveiling of a statue of himself, and two other two men on that iconic medal stand: Tommie Smith and Peter Norman. Carlos is also in town to visit the White House. He speaks about what it feels like to be re-embraced and who he still feels owes him a damn apology (spoiler: it's Brent Musburger.) We also have some choice words for Mike Ditka, we take listener calls and a Just Stand Up Award for the Castlemont Knights football team, showing some A plus solidarity with the protest of Colin Kaepernick.http://www.johncarlos68.com/ | https://twitter.com/DrJohnCarlos/ | https://www.instagram.com/drjohncarlos1968/The John Carlos Story: The Sports Moment That Changed the World by John Carlos and Dave Zirin http://www.haymarketbooks.org/hc/The-John-Carlos-StoryThe Unbearable Bigotry of Mike Ditka: https://www.thenation.com/article/the-unbearable-bigotry-of-mike-ditka/On the Passing of HBCU and Olympic Coaching Legend Ed Temple: https://www.thenation.com/article/on-the-passing-of-hbcu-and-olympic-coaching-legend-ed-temple/After Forty-four Years, It’s Time Brent Musburger Apologized to John Carlos and Tommie Smith: https://www.thenation.com/article/after-forty-four-years-its-time-brent-musburger-apologized-john-carlos-and-tommie-smith/—http://edgeofsportspodcast.com | http://twitter.com/edgeofsports | http://fb.com/edgeofsportspod | email us: edgeofsports@slate.com—music: “Vision” - McCoy Tyner | Stevie Wonder - Live from NMAAHC opening https://youtu.be/M2wlGbNk8Sc |  “Touch the Sky” - Kanye West http://kanyewest.com (Just Blaze production https://twitter.com/justblaze) | “Simon Says” - Pharoahe Monch (Pharoahe Monch production http://pharoahe.com) | “D’Evils” - Jay Z http://lifeandtimes.com (DJ Premier production http://premierwuzhere.com, Crank Lucas remake https://twitter.com/crank_lucas) | “I Don't Know” - Slum Village http://slumvillage.com/ (J Dilla production http://j-dilla.com/) | “Used to Love U” - John Legend http://johnlegend.com (Kanye West production) Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Edge of Sports Podcast. I'm Dave Ziron.

0:04.0

Today on the show, we are face-to-face in studio with sports and politics legend, 1968

0:10.2

Olympian Dr. John Carlos.

0:16.2

Colin Kaepernick is a gifted individual. You know, I mean, he sees something wrong. His

0:19.8

idea is a young man, and he chose to sacrifice

0:22.1

himself to make a statement for all people.

0:24.8

His thing is about dealing with America straight on, as I did 48 years ago, to tell

0:29.2

him that something is wrong within the system.

0:31.5

There's a lesson to be learned amongst my kids and their kids, believe in what you believe

0:36.3

in, and stand for what you believe in.

0:38.4

And don't let anyone intimidate you to try and deter you from being who you should be in life.

0:44.0

So Mr. Kavanaugh, by him being a millionaire professional athlete, he's making a statement

0:49.5

that is not about your independent wealth.

0:51.6

It's about the well-being of all the people that you left

0:54.4

in your environment to come to this wealth that you have today. Follow Kaepernick to the rainbow.

1:02.1

I also have some choice words for Iron Mike Ditka. I have some words as well about some listener

1:08.0

concerns about the interview we did last week with Bob Costas.

1:11.1

We also have the Just Stand Up Award.

1:12.9

We've got some calls to the hotline.

1:14.8

So we got a full show.

1:16.3

Let's hit it.

1:17.3

Dr. John Carlos, how you doing, sir?

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