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🗓️ 28 May 2000
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Sue Lawley's castaway this week is John Bird. As a student, he changed the face of the Cambridge Footlights review by rejecting jokes on bed-makers and punting and writing a political review instead. In the early 1960s he helped found The Establishment Club with Peter Cook. Writing sketches with John Fortune, they found they were unable to find suitable actors to perform their work, and so took to the stage themselves. Satire, he says, died in the late 1960s and he struggled to make a living, until Rory Bremner hired them. As 'The Two Johns', their dialogues featuring an awkward interviewer and slippery politician have won them much recognition and a BAFTA award.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello I'm Kirstie Young and this is a podcast from the Desert Island Discs archive. |
| 0:05.0 | For rights reasons, we've had to shorten the music. |
| 0:08.0 | The program was originally broadcast in the year 2000 and the presenter was Sue Lawley. My castaway this week is a director, writer and actor. At Cambridge in the 50s he was a star of the |
| 0:37.4 | footlights and a young Turk of a director, so much so that he walked straight out of |
| 0:41.1 | university into a job at the Royal Court Theatre. |
| 0:44.2 | From there he moved into writing and performing satirical sketches, first at Peter Cook's club in |
| 0:48.8 | Soho and then on television in not so much a program more a way of life. His impersonations of Harold Wilson, |
| 0:55.0 | Jomo Ken Yatta and Edward Heath became part of the national diet, eagerly consumed by |
| 1:00.0 | audiences enjoying the new-found freedoms which satire represented. |
| 1:04.0 | Then it all stopped. |
| 1:06.0 | satire went out of fashion and by his own admission he went off the rails. |
| 1:10.0 | But suddenly he came back, partnered by his best friend John Fortune, he appeared on the Rory Bremer show in a series of witty sketches sending up politicians, big business and upper-class snobberies. |
| 1:21.5 | What I'm doing now, he says, is exactly what I was doing |
| 1:25.1 | 30 years ago. I haven't developed at all. He is John Bird. Do you mind, John? |
| 1:31.0 | I do quite. Yes, I mean I enjoy doing what I do very much but I always think that |
| 1:37.2 | By now I should have a late period you know like Brahms had a late period or you know where everything is very spare and abstract but I |
| 1:46.1 | don't have a late period I have my first my early period is gone on is it a more |
| 1:51.0 | confident period then because you've done it before? |
| 1:54.0 | I suppose so, yes, I suppose so. |
| 1:56.0 | One also that never gets any easier doing what we're doing. |
| 2:00.0 | And like most people, when I've done a piece I will think I'm never going to get an idea |
| 2:06.8 | again you know that's going to that's the end of it it's because it has to be so topical |
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