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This is CBS. I'm the world. I'm John Batchel with my friend and colleague Gordon Chang at Gordon G. Chang.

Anticipating conflict in the Pacific in these next years. We welcome Captain James Finnell,

United States Navy retired now at the government house in Switzerland,

but once upon a time, an intelligence officer

for the Seventh Fleet and for the Indo-Pacific Theater.

Good news.

Newsweek headline.

U.S. opens new base, new base, at China choke point, meaning the South China Sea.

Jim, a very good evening to you.

You have guided me to understand that the Philippines are the weak link in the chain that we call the first island chain,

and that the Chinese have studied the same history you and I have, that the Japanese imperial navy and army struck at

Luzon in 41, and very much rolled up what forces had been prepared for them, including B-17s and well-positioned,

well-trained soldiers, Filipinos. And it led to baton and Corrigador and the retreat of MacArthur

to Australia. And the Japanese were dominating and tormenting the Philippines for four years. However, importantly, is the

strategy of it. It worked to drive the U.S. out of the South China Sea and out of that zone entirely

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