Welcome to the program today. My name is Mauna Gonzalez and I have in studio with me a very special guest all the way from Amon Jordan, Joel Kramer, who has written a book where God came down the archaeological evidence. And welcome, Joel.

Thank you. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Yeah. You know, we here at Prophecy Watchers, you know, we have been bringing prophecy,

of course, for a long time, even our main host, Gary Stearman. But one of the things that we've

liked to do is we see how prophecy brings forth and shows the reliability of Scripture, and that's

one of the reasons why we spend time talking about biblical archaeology. And so, but for our audience, kind of introduce

yourself to them. And I've known of you for at least probably 10, 15 years, but kind of

give an insight of where you've been coming from and what you've been doing for the last decade

or more. Yeah, my name is Joel Kramer. And yeah, I was in Utah, the state of Utah for many years.

I grew up in the Middle East in Saudi Arabia.

My dad worked for the oil company.

But I moved over to Israel.

Gosh, it's been going on 16 years ago now.

And I went over to, I was making videos and, and I wanted to study archaeology

because I'm trying to reason with people that the Bible has all this evidence. And we're not,

we're not talking about fairy tales here. We're talking about real people and real events and real history

that happened. And so for some, especially kind of with a secular mentality, hopefully it

challenges them to really consider what the Bible has to say.

Intro of this video, I want to show one of your video clips where you talk about

Bible and archaeology. Kind of give a 20 second intro on this video.

Yeah, the video I think you're referring to is I go around and I ask a simple question.

I ask archaeologists that are working in Israel if they use the

Bible as a tool in their archaeology. And of course they do because that's how you bring the

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