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The Politics Guys

Joe Zammit-Lucia on The New Political Capitalism

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.4783 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Kimberly Weir. Professor of International Relations at Northern Kentucky University, talks with international management consultant Dr. Joe Zammit-Lucia about his latest book, The New Political Capitalism: How Businesses and Societies Can Thrive in a Deeply Politicized World. Topics Kimberly & Joe discuss include: Why business and politics are inseparable How the interaction between business and government is like football Policy regulation and deregulation as public goods Why living in Florida would be impossible without government subsidies Why so many corporations give China a pass on its authoritarian policies Why Harley Davidson workers voted to axe their own jobs Tony Chocoloney and the problem of moving away from slave labor chocolate The instability of the current tri-polar trade bloc system The reality that ‘no brand can remain apolitical for too long’ Markets as essentially political constructs Joe Zammit-Lucia on Twitter  The Politics Guys on Facebook | Twitter Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support at patreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. Interested in starting your own podcast? Check out RedCircle, home of The Politics Guys. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:42.1

Welcome to the politics, guys,

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a place for bipartisan, rational and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:48.5

I'm Kimberly Weir, professor of political science at Northern Kentucky University.

0:52.6

And I'm talking with Dr. Joe Zanat

0:55.0

Lucia. He's a fascinating background. He began as a physician, moved into industry R&D, founded

1:01.2

Radix, a nonprofit public policy think tank, and started his own management consulting firm

1:06.7

in Cambridge, expanding to offices in New York and Tokyo. Today we're here to talk about his

1:12.1

latest book, The New Political Capitalism. Hello, Joe, and thanks for taking the time to talk

1:16.9

with me today about your new book, arguing that businesses and societies can thrive in our deeply

1:22.4

politicized world. Hello, thanks for having me. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too. When I was reading your book,

1:30.5

I guess because my area is international relations, I thought that at times you sounded like a

1:34.8

mercantilist and other times you sounded like a neoliberal. Can you start by explaining these

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