we need one another. We are reliant on one another. And what a wonderful grace that we get to rely on one another for our own thriving. And that that can be mutual if we choose for it to be that way. So we're doing this interview in the evening, which I don't normally do.

I don't know if I will be able to form a sentence is the truth.

By the time, this time of day, what will come out of my mouth? We don't know.

So we're a little bit afraid. This is our first meeting and you've just moved and I just found out

you're from Australia. So all kinds of new information for me here. Yeah. Well, who knows what comes

in the conversation, but I'm excited for the ride.

Yeah, same here. I'm talking with Dr. Amy Kenny today, disabled scholar, a scribe for

Freedom Road Institute for Leadership and Justice, and a Shakespeare lecturer. I just want to

tell you that I'm a little intimidated by you with all of those amazing things on your bio.

Do you get that a lot?

Are people intimidated by you?

I don't know.

Not many people tell me they are, but I don't know that I ask.

But underneath that old, I'm just a girl standing in front of the chat asking them to love disabled people.

That is the best thing I think I've ever heard anyone say.

I don't know if you've ever said that before, but it sounded very fluid coming out of your mouth.

It was actually great.

If you can't see Dr. Amy Kinney, she's, she's blonde and beautiful,

but also I'm intimidated by your brain here being this Shakespeare lecturer, but I'm also,

I can already tell that your heart is so beautiful. I'm always fascinated by younger us.

When you were little Amy, was Shakespeare

lecturer on the radar? No, absolutely not. I didn't know what either of those words meant or

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