Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go.

I'm Lisa Whittle, and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray

will be five minutes well spent.

Oh, man, do we have two days of goodness for you on Joe?

Fox News at Night host, Chief Legal Correspondent, and author of Finding the Bright Side,

Shannon Bream is on our show, and I'm beside myself about this. Not only is this woman smart,

she is kind and witty, and most importantly to me, she loves Jesus in a big way, too. In the midst

of meeting with Supreme Court justices and running her own popular cable news show,

Shannon was so gracious to stop by and talk with me for not one but two days about all kinds of things.

Her experiences with both the Miss America and Miss USA pageants, she was both Miss Virginia and Miss Florida, by the way,

going from practicing law to being a TV correspondent and her first boss telling her,

you're the worst person I've ever seen on TV.

True story. Can you even believe? All of this in her amazing new book, Finding the Bright Side,

and we cover it all in the next two days. We'll link the book in the show notes and we'll also do a giveaway in Instagram,

so you'll want to check that out as well. I'm so excited to welcome my friend, Shannon Bream, to Joe.

So I have to tell you, I'm a little nervous today, Shannon, because you're like a pro-pro.

I feel like authors turned podcasters fake being interviewers, but you're the real

deal. You have your own TV show. You're a legit broadcaster. Well, but see, this is how I feel about you.

I'm like a broadcaster turned fake author. And I love, love, love your books. And they've meant so much

to me. So I feel like I'm talking to an

actual author right now. So it's equal, it all equals out then. We're a perfect match. So,

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