Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go.

I'm Lisa Whittle, and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray

will be five minutes well spent.

Today, I'm doing something I've never done before, interviewing two people at the same time.

I had such a fun conversation with Aaron and Jennifer Smith,

and we even did the fun lightning round thing together at the end,

which ended up being more of a how well do you know your spouse kind of a thing.

Lots of fun.

But we also got into some important meaty things like

why marriage is designed for more than a happily ever after,

and I confess to them why I don't feature many marriage

books on my show. We talked to millennials and straight talk about marriage and what they would say

to someone struggling in their marriage right now. All of this comes from their new book, Marriage

After God, and I appreciated the conversation we had about a bunch of things. Honor to welcome

this couple to Jesus Over Everything Now.

This is a unique show for me today because I'm actually hosting two people, never done that before, a husband and wife, Aaron and Jennifer Smith.

But I'm assuming you guys are used to this because you have your own podcast and you're

probably pros at interviews together, right?

We do enjoy it.

Yes, sometimes it's hard.

But no, we've gotten really good at going back and forth.

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