Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go.

I'm Lisa Whittle, and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray

will be five minutes well spent.

My guest today is someone that I have long looked forward to bringing onto this show.

If you don't know Carrie Garcia,

we're about to change that. I met her at an event we did last year, and immediately I sensed

a not only powerful and gifted leader, but a Jesus lover through and through. I basically forced

her to be my friend, and I'm so glad I did. Carrie has a story and a past, heavy with threads

of the church, meth addiction,

heartbreak, and the Jesus who makes all things well. I love her. She is my unbridled soul sister.

She's written a manual for every seeker of healing and freedom called The Exchange, Journey from

Hurting to Hope, and it is a a smart powerful resource I'm telling you she runs

the freedom movement the freedom tour all of it you need to check out in the show notes

listen now as Carrie shares from her heart what does it mean to be free?

This is the burning question within all of us.

We often see the answer to this in external definitions,

freedom of speech, freedom from oppression, and so on.

I mean, we live in the land of the free and the home of the brave.

Yet in our faith journeys, freedom can feel elusive,

like an idea we can't really wrap our minds around fully. So what does it mean to actually look like freedom in our own life? When Jesus says in

John 836, if the sun sets you free, you will be free indeed. Wow, such amazing words. We cling so

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