Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go. I'm Lisa Whittle,

and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray will be five minutes well spent.

It's Friday and Good Friday today, so thankful for Jesus and what Good Friday means, the sacrifice he made as we

look towards Sunday. Recently, I asked you what you wanted me to talk about on the Friday 5. I got some

awesome responses. I'll have to do some of the other shows in the future. Not really appropriate for

Good Friday. But today I'm giving a list of five things one of you asked me to give,

five women who shaped my ministry. I thought this one was really great. It's a neat one for me

because I not only get to look back at the core five women who had maybe the greatest impact

on me, some of them for sure, but also I get to publicly praise them on this show. I am so ready, so let's go.

Five women who shaped my ministry, because quite honestly, they shaped me. Number one, Johnny

Eric Santata. If you've ever heard me in a writing seminar of some sort, you may well have heard me talk

about Johnny and her impact on me through her book, Johnny.

I read that book, and though it was about her accident where she was diving in some water

and broke her neck and became paralyzed, for me it was about much more, a strong-willed female who God used in a

powerful way in her life, and she learned to yield her spirit to him. It marked me to this day.

It gave me hope that God could use my life to, even though I was so very stubborn. I am so

very stubborn. I went on to read many more of Johnny's books,

which are full of depth and truth. If I ever got to meet Johnny in person, I would most

definitely weep. I really would. Number two, this next person is someone I actually did get

to meet Amy Grant. I won't go into the whole story, but I actually sat with her and we had

lunch and we talked for a very long time, just one on one. Now, she wouldn't know me from Adam,

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