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from the book, because it sums up you, you obviously were a Democrat, you recently became an independent, and you said, in becoming an independent, I found myself exactly where I wanted to need to be in dead center, standing with the majority of Americans who refused to pledge allegiance to anything except the Constitution, common sense, and the greater good. this is where the most of America lives.

Why can't politicians get it right?

I don't know, Donnie, because I think that there common sense and the greater good. This is where the most of America lives. Why can't politicians

get it right? I don't know, Donnie, because I think that the reward, they're getting rewarded for

bad behavior and all the money is going to the extremes. I can't give you any other answer than that

because I know it's very profitable. The business model that both of them have, my Democrat friends and

Republican friends both have the same business model, create an awful lot of fear and hatred. And then we have to go after and defeat the other side. And right now, nothing's getting done because of that. And this turmoil and people are just getting exhausted by it. And they would like to see more of us in the middle, Donnie, that we, you know, look at the common sense and how you make things happen. But you know one thing? Common sense is pretty common. Doesn't get you too excited. You expect to do the right thing. You're expected to have good decisions and things of this sort. Create chaos and you got me all fired up, I guess. And that's what they want. You know, you talk about common sense. It comes from your roots growing up

in Pennsylvania, your father, at a retail store, and you use the terms which is such a, which so smart

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