Welcome to the sports media podcast.

I'm your host, Richard Deich.

My producer is Patrick Antonetti.

One guest this week, but a guest that does not need much introduction, though I will give him one.

He's been on this podcast many times before.

Actually, it was on my podcast on Sports Illustrated.

He's, he's been gracious enough to be a guest many times, and he's never charged

me for it, which I really appreciate it.

Joe Buck is the play-by-play lead voice for Monday Night Football, obviously alongside Troy

Aikman on that booth. We are having him on

and as we start to close out May to discuss the Monday night football schedule and some other

things. And with that, I bring on Joe Buck. Welcome. Welcome back. So I'm kind of hung up on the

idea that people actually charge for this. Like I could charge you for this theoretically. I mean, theoretically, yeah. But the one weird thing, Joe, about podcasting is that no one, no one like charge, you know, no one like sort of anticipates. Maybe McAfee's the exception, I guess. But like, you know, no, no, generally speaking, people do podcasts for free, which is kind of awesome.

But I, in some ways, it doesn't make any sense, right?

Because you're providing your time and expertise for gratis, where, you know, in almost any other form, if you were doing that, you would be paid.

Well, I mean, I think it gets back to respect and friendship and

wanting to be heard sometimes, maybe clearing something up. I think there's value in that.

I also think, you know, the other side of it is, I've gone on plenty of podcasts over the years

that it's funny because you can say a story. Like I said a story about having a drink in the booth in front of me one time on Howard Stern.

And you think that if you say it on Stern, if something's ever going to get picked up,

that's where somebody would pick it up.

And then maybe three years later, I said it on

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