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The Ezra Klein Show

Joe Biden's Other Legacy

The Ezra Klein Show

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Government, News

4.611K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

I’m reporting from the Democratic National Convention this week, so we’re going to try something a little different on the show — a daily audio report of what I’m seeing and hearing here in Chicago. For our first installment, I’m joined by my producer, Rollin Hu, to discuss what the convention’s opening night revealed about the Democratic Party after a tumultuous couple of months. We talk about how Joe Biden transformed the party over the past four years, the behind-the-scenes efforts to shape the party under Kamala Harris, the impact of the Gaza protests and why many Democrats — despite Harris’s recent momentum — feel cautious about their odds in November. Mentioned: “Trump Turned the Democratic Party Into a Pitiless Machine” by Ezra Klein Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s Full Speech at Democratic National Convention Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at [email protected]. You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at https://www.nytimes.com/article/ezra-klein-show-book-recs. This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced and hosted by Rollin Hu. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris, with Kate Sinclair and Mary Marge Locker. Our senior engineer is Jeff Geld, with additional mixing by Aman Sahota. Our senior editor is Claire Gordon. The show’s production team also includes Annie Galvin, Elias Isquith and Kristin Lin. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser.

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0:00.0

From New York Times opinion, this is the morning, August 20th. I am recording this from beautiful sunny Chicago.

0:28.5

I'm here covering the 2024 Democratic National Convention.

0:33.2

And we're going to do something a bit different on the show this week.

0:36.0

I'm going to be doing a daily audio diary, a daily audio report on what I'm hearing and seeing here in Chicago.

0:46.0

I'm joined today by my producer Roland who, who is going to help me out on the other side of the

0:51.9

microphone here today.

0:53.0

Roland, welcome to the show.

0:55.0

Happy to be here, Ezra.

0:57.0

So let's get started.

0:58.0

You're at the convention now.

0:59.7

The party's already selected a nominee in Kamala Harris.

1:04.0

So what's there left to do?

1:05.9

Yeah, what are conventions for is a wonderful question in the modern era?

1:11.2

So conventions used to be where you pick the nominee that is still true

1:15.5

technically most years but it is not technically true this year there was a virtual

1:20.8

roll call where Kamla Harris was selected so the part of the convention where officially the nominee

1:27.2

gets selected that has also already happened. So why are so many people here in

1:32.1

Chicago? The way I would think about the

1:34.2

modern convention is that it is a place where political parties gather to

1:40.3

define themselves. And they do that in a number of ways.

1:44.0

They do that through creating their platforms.

1:47.0

They do that through choosing who gets speaking slots and when,

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