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Matter of Opinion

Joe Biden and the Communion Wars

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2021

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Could the Catholic Church pressure a politician into changing his or her stance on abortion? A debate has erupted in the Catholic community over whether a politician, like President Joe Biden, should be denied communion for supporting abortion rights. This week, Jane Coaston debates the pros and cons of using communion as punishment with Ross Douthat, a Times Opinion columnist, and Heidi Schlumpf, the executive editor of National Catholic Reporter.

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Today on the argument, who gets to be a Catholic in America?

0:07.0

Bishops here in America are pushing to allow priests to deny the President's communion

0:14.7

over his support of abortion rights.

0:16.8

President Biden only the second Catholic commander in chief in history and arguably the most

0:21.2

religiously observant since Jimmy Carter.

0:23.3

A decision would not only affect President Biden, others like Nancy Pelosi or House Speaker

0:28.3

is also Catholic.

0:29.3

Are you concerned about the rift in the Catholic church and how do you feel personally about

0:33.5

that?

0:34.5

That's a private matter and I don't think that's going to happen.

0:41.0

President Biden is just one and a long line of Catholic politicians more not to receive

0:45.0

communion because of their support or perceived support for abortion rights.

0:49.2

See Congressman Patrick Kennedy, presidential candidate John Kerry, and Senator Dick Durbin.

0:55.0

This debate has been going on for decades.

0:57.4

Man now it's back.

0:59.2

I'm Jane Kostin, I was raised Catholic.

1:01.7

And I know the ritual of communion and the process of transubstantiation where the bread

1:06.1

and wine offered to become the body and blood of Jesus Christ is incredibly important and

1:10.9

deeply personal.

1:12.6

Which is why it can seem like such a blow to see it withheld from someone.

1:18.8

Conservative American Catholics or American Catholics opposed to abortion might be pleased

1:23.3

to see the church take a performative stance against pro-choice politicians.

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