Joe and Jada - Tracy McGrady talks Knicks, ICONIC Rockets-Spurs comeback, toughest NBA matchup & ‘Cousins’ podcast with Vince Carter
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iHeartPodcasts and The Volume
4.1 • 10.3K Ratings
🗓️ 23 April 2026
⏱️ 73 minutes
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Summary
Fat Joe and Jadakiss are joined by NBA Hall of Famer Tracy McGrady. T-Mac breaks down his legendary 13 points in 35 seconds game against the San Antonio Spurs, why Ron Artest was the toughest defender he ever faced, his new podcast Cousins with Vince Carter, what went wrong for Markelle Fultz and Ben Simmons, and his new OBL one-on-one league launching May 15th in Orlando with team owners Lorenz Tate, Tim Hardaway Sr., and Jada (Kiss Kupchak!). Joe brags about his alter ego J.J. Sabathia years dominating softball games in the Bronx, rants about Knicks head coach Mike Brown's questionable sneaker choices, and why old rappers can't get radio play anymore. T-Mac also quizzes Joe and Jada on the highlights of their career, from Jada making songs with Biggie and DMX to Joe performing “Lean Back” at Summer Jam.
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5:00 13 points in 35 seconds game vs. Spurs
8:30 Fat Joe: Bronx softball legend
14:30 What went wrong for Markelle Fultz & Ben Simmons
21:00 T-Mac's toughest NBA matchup
31:00 Coach Mike Brown's questionable sneakers
38:00 T-Mac's OBL one-on-one basketball league
48:00 State of hip hop & why radio won't play the old school
1:01:00 'Cousins' podcast with Vince Carter
1:06:00 T-Mac quizzes Joe and Jada on rap career highlights
1:13:00 Hearing your song everywhere vs. everyone wearing your shoe
1:17:00 T-Mac requests "Feel Me" by Jadakiss
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| 0:00.0 | No gloss, no filter. |
| 0:03.1 | Just stories. |
| 0:04.8 | Spoken without fear. |
| 0:06.5 | Person who is not generous can not be an artist. |
| 0:09.4 | The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. |
| 0:14.3 | Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Abhaw on the IHeart Radio app, |
| 0:18.5 | Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty. Stay for the fire. You know, I'm right. Come on, my man. Just bumping it, boy. No, I'm talking about it. I ain't listening to shit. Listen. He's running it. First of all, I'm going to be honest with you. Them shoes so fucking big. I feel like I got a gun in my, be running it. First of all, I'm gonna be honest with you. |
| 0:37.8 | Them shoes so fucking big. |
| 0:39.2 | I feel like I got a gun in my face. |
| 0:41.6 | That shit looked like an A-R-Sin-T. |
| 0:45.5 | Calibur's shoe is that. |
| 0:47.1 | That shit looked like you put the foot up |
| 0:49.1 | in somebody ass. |
| 0:50.5 | They're in trouble. |
| 1:04.7 | You know, They're in trouble. Yeah, yeah, what up, y'all? |
| 1:06.2 | This your boy Joe Cracked at Dawn. |
| 1:08.3 | You know who it is, your boy Jada. |
| 1:10.4 | Mr. Joe and Jada show Every show legendary, every show iconic. My man got that lavender shit on that ain't so... No, but saying slow, you're looking like Teddy Bucks in right now. You got that shit on. Yeah, I mean. You saw him a little rib, a little Gucci shit. Yo, you get money, man. |
| 1:29.1 | God damn, this guy right? |
| 1:31.2 | He looked like a hoxable right now. |
| 1:36.0 | You think of today's guests? |
| 1:39.7 | You think of one of the most gifted scorers |
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