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The Shift with Sam Baker

Jodi Picoult on sexism, Donald Trump and why everyone has a "what if?" moment

The Shift with Sam Baker

Sam Baker Ltd

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.8525 Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

This week I’m chatting to a woman who is the very definition of a Bestseller. Jodi Picoult has written 24 global smash hits (including A Spark of Light and Small Great Things) all with her inimitable mix of hard hitting issues and intimate personal stories, and her last eight novels have debuted at No 1 in the New York Times bestseller list. Her new novel, The Book of Two Ways, is a page turning exploration of life, death, grief and the biggest question of all - what would our lives look like if we’d taken a different path? Who doesn’t wonder that sometimes/often/all the time?* (*delete as applicable!)? Over a cup of coffee as big as her head, Jodi shares her own ‘what if’ moment, why covid-19 makes her fear for women’s position in society and why she’s angrier than ever. Put it this way she’s a fierce defender of women’s rights and an outspoken critic of Donald Trump…!  (Jodi was sitting in her attic on America's East coast so apologies in advance if the transatlantic quality is occasionally a bit shonky.) The Shift (on life after 40) with Sam Baker is hosted by Sam Baker, produced by Emily Sandford. I’d love to hear what you think - please let me know on twitter @sambaker or instagram @theothersambaker • The Shift - How I (lost and) found myself after 40 - and you can too is out now in hardback and available to buy here. • The Book of Two Ways by Jodi Picoult is out now in hardback and available to buy here. Jodi's book recommendation: Beach Read by Emily Henry is available to buy in paperback. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Jamie Lang and Sophie Haboo have arrived on Disney Plus.

0:04.5

We're having a baby.

0:05.5

We're having a baby.

0:07.2

I've always wanted to be mom.

0:09.4

And we're bringing you on our journey through everything.

0:12.4

I have no idea what we're doing.

0:13.6

Thank you. I have more of an idea.

0:15.6

I think of it like a Tamagocchi.

0:17.8

At the end of all of this...

0:20.0

We're going to have a little baby.

0:21.8

Raising Chelsea, a Hulu original series streaming exclusively on Disney Plus.

0:27.3

18 plus subscription required T's and T supply.

0:34.9

Hello and welcome to The Shift.

0:37.2

The podcast that aims to tell the no-holds-barred truth about being a woman post-40.

0:42.0

Created and hosted by me, journalist and author Sam Baker. Today I'm chatting to a woman who is the

0:48.1

very definition of a bestseller. Jodie Pico has written 24 global smash hits, as well as two YA books with her daughter Samantha.

0:56.0

And her last eight novels have debuted at number one in the New York Times bestseller list.

1:01.0

If you have a platform, the first thing you need to ask yourself is when you crawl up on it, what are you going to say?

1:07.0

What is the point of having a platform if you say nothing and if you don't try to

1:12.7

leave the world a better place than the way you've found it? In her new novel, The Book of Two Ways,

1:17.8

Jody explores life, death, grief, and the biggest question of all, what would our lives look like

1:23.9

if we'd take in a different path. Who doesn't wonder that sometimes?

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