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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

Jodi Arias kills lover, defense lawyer Kirk Nurmi speaks out & Navy vet murders teen girl, Ashanti Billie

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2017

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Boyfriend killer Jodi Arias is turning her anger toward Kirk Nurmi, the lawyer who helped her avoid the death penalty. Arias is suing Nurmi accusing him of having "utter hatred" of her and being "fixated with the sexual aspect" of her case. Nancy Grace talks with Nurmi, psycho analyst Dr. Bethany Marshall and RadarOnline reporter Alexis Tereszcuk. A homeless Navy vet is charged with kidnapping a Virginia teen whose body was later found behind a church more than 300 miles away. Crime scene investigator Sheryl McCollum and reporter Bobbi Maxwell join Grace to discuss Ashanti Billie's murder.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Climbs stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph channel 132.

0:11.2

Jury Arius was on trial for the brutal murder of her boyfriend, Travis Alexander.

0:15.0

The defendant shall be incarcerated in the Department of Corrections, where the rest of her

0:18.1

natural life has no possibility of parole.

0:20.5

She was found guilty but sentenced to life in prison instead of the death penalty.

0:24.0

That trial and what came after it changed Kurt Nurmy.

0:27.0

Nurmy was the face of her defense, vilified online.

0:29.7

When I was done with the Arius trial, I had serious questions about whether or not I wanted to practice logging.

0:35.5

Then he was diagnosed with cancer.

0:37.3

When cancer entered my life and I began to contemplate my mortality, it became important to me to defend myself.

0:44.7

And I feel that that's what I did in my book.

0:46.5

The book, trapped with Miss Arius, was a tell-all.

0:49.0

Nurmy wrote about what it was like to deal with Arius as a client, her demands, and he wrote the lies that she and her family were willing to tell.

0:56.3

She loved him.

0:58.3

She loved him to death.

1:03.5

I'm talking about none other than Jody Arius.

1:09.6

And her lover turned murder victim, Travis Alexander.

1:16.1

I still to this day have the button.

1:20.5

That Travis Alexander's family would wear to court every day or try to, that they gave me.

1:29.6

But it's not over yet.

1:32.8

Believe it or not, even after Jody Arius is convicted of murdering her lover, stabbing him 26 times, leaving his dead body slumped over in the shower,

1:47.9

shooting him in the head.

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