This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 114 is sitting here with Echo Charles

Reactive versus proactive. So you've heard these terms before and everyone that says you don't want to be reactive,

you want to be proactive, meaning we don't want to be on defense, we want to be on

offense. Generally speaking, good rule. I like it. It's better to be proactive than it is to be reactive.

It's better to be on offense than it is to be on defense.

D. A good example of this, during my first deployment to Iraq we were doing direct

action missions where we would load up our vehicles leave our base we would

drive between 15 minutes and five hours

get to a enemy location,

assault that building or position, grab whatever bad guy we're looking for, do an

extensive search of the area looking for intelligence, load back up into the vehicles,

drive between 15 minutes and 5 hours to get back home.

When you think about that,

initially it sounds like you're on offense, right? about that

you're on offense right going out and you're attacking the reality of it and it kind of felt like that for a little while

but then the more I thought about it that whole time when you're

driving in a vehicle down a road that you're not on offense your own defense and

you're you're waiting for the enemy who has the opportunity to be

on offense to attack at the time of their choosing.

So you're on offense, yeah, when you hit the target, you're on offense to the people that are in that target building because they didn't hear you coming up. I mean, now if they hear you, obviously you're almost immediately on defense anyways but if they don't

hear you which they shouldn't and you get a good jump on them and you keep the element of surprise which is a critical

part of any spouse or special operation if you do that you're going to be on offense for those four

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