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Joanne Lipman: "It isn't just women leaning in, we need men to reach across the divide"

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The Washington Post

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 March 2018

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Joanne Lipman, author of 'That's What She Said" talks about the tense environment between men and women in the workplace, how diversity training made things worse, and what women do to be seen as equal in a so-called man's world.

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0:00.0

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0:18.8

Hey everyone, I'm Jonathan Kapart and welcome to Cape Up.

0:21.8

Joanne Lippecher. I'm Jonathan Kapart and welcome to K-P-Up.

0:24.4

Joanne Lippman is the author of That's What She Said,

0:27.3

what men need to know and women need to tell them

0:29.7

about working together.

0:31.2

From this era of Me Too, the former editor-in-chief of USA Today,

0:34.7

addresses why the moment is right to talk fundamentals. The reason there has been this

0:39.2

explosion of frustration and outrage

0:43.4

Has isn't because every woman has been sexually assaulted at work, but it is because every woman

0:49.2

Every woman knows what it feels like to be marginalized, to be not taken seriously.

0:56.0

Joanne Lippman and I talk about the tense environment between men and women in the workplace,

1:01.0

how diversity training made things worse, what women do to be seen as equal in a so-called man's world.

1:08.0

And you can hear what she did when a man she was interviewing for a story,

1:12.0

stripped down to his underwear in his office right now.

1:15.9

Joanne Lippman, thank you very much for being here.

1:21.1

Thank you for having me.

1:22.2

The perfect place to start this conversation is where you start

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