We held to this teacher as a prophet sent from God.

So the girls would wear skirts only, not listen to any music with drums.

If you turn on music with drums, you're calling demons.

So my music was banned.

Your music was banned.

Wow.

But then the older you get, you kind of step back and say, okay, what things do matter.

It was not until later on when we were walking through a lot of difficulties publicly.

One of my brothers made decisions that were very bad and it landed him in prison.

In that time, I realized people are looking at this as Christianity,

but this is not what the gospel is about.

Somebody needs to speak up for the glory of God here. For all intents and purposes, I don't know how you refer is Christianity, but this is not what the gospel is about. Somebody needs to speak up for the glory of God here.

For all intents and purposes, like, I don't know how you refer to it, but would you,

would you say that IBL was a cult?

The interesting thing about that question is,

This is the Deep End with La Cray.

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it's because I'm in the home of my next guest,

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Listen, she's a lot of things.

She's an author.

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