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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Jimmy Kimmel Got His Job Back. She Didn’t.

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

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News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 25 September 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

The First Amendment prohibits Congress from making laws that abridge freedom of speech or of the press, but in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder, it’s clear that it doesn’t take a law to attack those rights. Guest:  Karen Attiah, former columnist for the Washington Post and former editor of the Post’s Global Opinions section. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

In late August 1992, Randy Weaver and his family were refusing to come down from the remote Idaho mountaintop where they lived.

0:09.0

Weaver, a fugitive on a federal firearms charge, has been hold up in a cabin near Naples for more than a year.

0:15.0

The government thought Randy Weaver was a dangerous, possibly violent extremist.

0:20.0

Randy and his wife Vicky thought the government

0:23.0

was an agent of Satan on earth. When it was all over, three people were dead, and the government

0:29.2

had spent millions of dollars to catch one man. We'll find out why the siege at Ruby Ridge

0:34.7

unfolded the way it did, and think about some of the questions it raises.

0:39.4

What should we do about white supremacists? Why has the story of Ruby Ridge become an enduring

0:45.3

myth for the far right? And whose fault was it anyway?

0:51.0

Subscribe to Standoff, what happened at Ruby Ridge, in Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen.

1:06.4

I can honestly say I've never watched an episode of Jimmy Kimmel live before this week.

1:12.5

But when Disney announced that the late night host was coming back on the air Tuesday,

1:16.8

I knew I'd figure out how to, if not tune in, well, there'd definitely be a YouTube link somewhere.

1:25.6

What stands out to me from Kimmel's monologue Tuesday night, without looking back, it's

1:30.1

the way his voice cracked when he talked about Charlie Kirk.

1:33.3

You understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man.

1:41.3

I remember him imploring his audience to take the threats to free speech and an independent press seriously.

1:48.0

They want to pick and choose what the news is.

1:51.0

I know that's not as interesting as muscling a comedian, but it's so important to have a free press,

1:57.0

and it is nuts that we aren't paying more attention to.

2:00.0

And he also made what felt like this sincere call to national unity.

2:05.6

He was invoking people like Candace Owens and Senator Ted Cruz,

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