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3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

Jim Returns to Ukraine: War Update, A Complicated Ally, The Secret Drone Factory

3 Martini Lunch – Political Humor & Commentary

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Government, News, News Commentary

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2024

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Join Jim and Greg as Jim offers a fascinating recap of his recent return to Ukraine and describes what was different this time around. Plus, Jim's recollection of a conversation with a former member of the Russian Duma who is now allied with Ukraine, and a very interesting look at the innovations happening right now to help Ukrainian soldiers.

First, Jim explains why he wanted to go back to Ukraine a little more than six months after his visit last summer. He also updates the war effort, the relentless Russian "meat waves," the impact of U.S. aid  being on hold, and what conditions for an end to the war might be under consideration. They also discuss Ukraine's policy of not holding elections while under martial law. Would it be better to demonstrate a commitment to democracy regardless of the circumstances or is it simply impossible to hold elections under the current circumstances?

Next, Jim recounts his meeting with Ilya Ponomarev, a former member of the Russian Duma who is now working with Ukraine against the Russians. His tactics are certainly fodder for debate but Jim explains why what Ponomarev is doing is quite courageous.

Finally, Jim describes his visit to a secret drone factory somewhere in Ukraine and shares as much as he can about the innovations happening to assist the war effort and the people working there. Jim may be the first western journalist to visit the plant.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Three Martini lunch.

0:04.6

Grab a stole next to Greg Carumbus of Radio America and Jim Garrity of National Review.

0:09.4

Three Martini's coming up.

0:11.8

Hey, really glad you're with us for the Friday edition of the Three Martini lunch,

0:17.0

and as we promised earlier in the week, today is our special reflecting on Jim's time in Ukraine.

0:24.2

As you know, he was there late last summer

0:26.8

and he was there again for more than a week in March.

0:30.6

He's back now and ready for the full download as he likes to say so uh

0:35.0

Jim as would just before we get into the I guess we're gonna go bad good crazy

0:40.4

kind of a thing more. Morrilli. They draw your own conclusions about this guy I want to talk about.

0:47.0

Exactly.

0:48.0

You talked about this a little bit on Monday, but real quickly why did you decide to make a second trip?

0:52.0

So when I went to the first time,

0:53.6

would people ask me, how do you summarize the trip?

0:55.2

I'm like, oh, you know, the Ukrainians I spoke to

0:57.6

were the most amazing wonderful people

1:00.4

who are going through hell.

1:02.1

On that first trip, I talked to people who had

1:04.0

had survived the Russian occupation in Bucha,

1:06.9

who had helped move the bodies out of cars

1:09.3

that had been shot up.

1:10.0

Like just, you know, I have pictures on my phone

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