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Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Jim Highsmith: a 54-year agile journey

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast

Thoughtworks

Careers, Business, 907234, Technology

4.753 Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Thoughtworks Technology Podcast catches up with retired Thoughtworker and co-signatory of the Agile Manifesto, Jim Highsmith. He talks us through his experiences, from working on the Apollo missions to dropped card desks, the birth of the agile movement and its future in a post-pandemic world.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the ThoughtWorks Technology Podcast.

0:08.0

I'm one of your regular hosts, Neil Ford, and I'm joined today by Rebecca, another of our

0:13.3

hosts.

0:14.3

Hello everybody.

0:15.3

My name is Rebecca Parsons, Chief Technology Officer for ThoughtWorks, and we are joined today by our guest and now retired Thoughtworker, Jim Highsmith.

0:26.0

You may know him as one of the signatories of the Agile Manifesto, so a well-known figure in the

0:34.2

Agile world, and that is exactly our topic of conversation today. We realized that as Jim

0:39.9

was retiring, we wanted to grab him before he wandered away too far from the software development

0:44.9

world and got too comfortable and talked to him about some of the observations he has made, because

0:52.3

a lot of people assume agility now because it's been

0:56.2

around for a while, but boy, that was not the case when things got started.

1:00.0

And Jim has a unique perspective on how this got started and where it is now.

1:05.8

So we wanted to talk to him about that.

1:07.8

So welcome, Jim.

1:09.0

We're glad to have you today.

1:10.7

Thanks, Neil. It's great to him about that. So welcome, Jim. We're glad to have you today. Thanks, Neil. It's

1:12.9

great to be here again. So let's talk about some of the things that you've seen in the software

1:19.6

development world. So when did you start doing software development? In about 1966, when I first got out of college, out of engineering school.

1:30.7

And so one of the things that I've been thinking about a little bit over the last couple of months,

1:35.7

as we've sort of reached the 20th anniversary of Agile, is looking back over a little bit of history

1:41.5

as to how we got here and looking for some themes that might

1:47.0

be important. And I really settled on sort of two themes through the years, one of which is,

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