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Music Hey everyone. Welcome to the Brunelor.

So I'm pretty excited today, Mike.

Yeah.

Yeah, we have a lot going on the past couple weeks.

I know.

And I'm actually pretty excited for this one because, you know, this is, this is where

the up-and- and coming brewer shining his light

oh that's interesting because yeah so the so the guest i have today um is is such a pivotal part of uh my not just career but my life my life and um just one of the uh i i always felt

like one of the most greatest souls that i ever came up that i've ever been in it's just this person this whole

period of my life changed my whole life it it it helped me develop as a human on so many levels

and um oh my hair looks pretty funky today huh what's going on over there

it works man it works right you pull it off I pull it off so so we started

fun I started telling Mike here about um you know some stuff hey, do we have tapes?

And we found some tapes of when it really started.

People go, oh, you know, was your big break?

S&L?

I always tell people there's no such thing as a big break.

There's a billion little breaks.

Just a billion.

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