If you've been listening to the podcast for some time, then you will be happy to hear that I am

bringing back the journey to simplicity series. In this series, I chat with a variety of people

both from my own life personally and from the simple family's community. The path to a simpler

life looks different for all of us. And in these episodes, you get a more in-depth look at what

simplicity looks like in the lives of others. Spoiler alert that it is always imperfect,

it is always a work in progress. Today, I'm chatting with Jillian Gumball, Jillian as a friend

who has inspired me to seek out more calm and more peace in my life. And I think you'll enjoy

hearing from her today. Hi, this is Dene. I'm the founder of Simple Families. Simple Families is an

online community for parents who are seeking a simpler, more intentional life. In this show, we focus

on minimalism with kids, positive parenting, family wellness, and decreasing the mental load.

My perspectives are based in my firsthand experience raising kids, but also rooted in my PhD

in child development. So you're going to hear conversations that are based in research,

but more importantly, real life. Thanks for joining us.

Hi there. Thanks for tuning in. I am excited to bring back this series journey to simplicity.

Today, I'm chatting with Jillian Gumball. Jillian is a local friend. She grew up in New York City,

and now lives out in the suburbs near me. And she inspired me to start a meditation practice.

We'll be talking more about that part of the journey today, as well as finding identity

postkids, looking closer at our relationships with alcohol, health and wellness, and managing the

inevitable comparisons that we see day in and day out online. You can find Jillian on Instagram

at Jillian Gumball. That's GM at BEL. And I'll put the link to reach her in the show notes at

simplefamilies.com forward slash episode 257. I hope you enjoy this episode. Hi Jillian,

thanks for chatting with me today. Hi, nice to see you. Nice to see you.

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