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The Holy Post

Jesus & John Wayne: Episode 1: Cold Warriors (The '50s & 60's)

The Holy Post

Phil Vischer

Skyejethani, Society & Culture, Philvischer, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity, 226012, Christiantaylor, Atheism, Veggietales

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Calvin University history professor Kristin Kobes Du Mez joins Skye Jethani (co-host of The Holy Post) to discuss her bestselling book, “Jesus & John Wayne.” In this episode, they discuss how the Cold War shaped and defined American evangelicalism, how it differed from earlier 19th-century evangelicalism, and the lingering effects of the Cold War on the way many white evangelicals still think about culture, politics, and gender.

Part 1 - Revivalism and the Military (2:23)
Part 2 - Billy Graham and the Bomb (16:34)
Part 3 - Civil Rights and Vietnam (30:48)
Part 4 - From Cold War to Culture War (45:08)

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In January of 2016, a candidate for the presidency of the United States spoke at a small Christian

0:06.2

college in Iowa. He warned about Muslims and immigrants, he called his opponents stupid and

0:12.0

pathetic. He warned the audience that Christianity was under siege, and he boasted that he could

0:17.5

stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and he wouldn't lose any voters.

0:22.5

The crowd applauded. Into the shock of many, Evangelicals went on to vote for him in record numbers.

0:28.7

This is the story of how Evangelicalism became corrupted and fractured a nation.

0:59.3

My name is Skye Jitani. I'm the co-host of the Holy Post podcast. Last year I read a book called

1:11.1

Jesus and John Wayne, how white Evangelicalism corrupted a faith and fractured a nation.

1:16.8

It was written by Calvin University History Professor Kristen Kobas-Dume. I interviewed Dr. Dume

1:22.4

for the Holy Post in August of 2020, and since then her book has taken off. It seems I'm not the only

1:28.5

one who thinks Jesus and John Wayne helps explain what's been going on in contemporary Evangelicalism.

1:34.1

So we've invited Kristen Dume back for a deeper dive, a four episode podcast mini-series that

1:40.2

looks at the major themes of her book and connects them to what's happening in the church and

1:44.5

our culture right now. Episode 1 focuses on the 1950s and 60s, and how the Cold War deeply impacted

1:51.7

the American Evangelical imagination and continues to shape how many Christians see the world today.

1:57.6

We've broken this episode into four parts. A description and timestamp for each part can be found

2:02.6

in the show notes. Whether you've read Jesus and John Wayne or not, I think you'll find our

2:07.3

conversation illuminating, and as you'll discover, Kristen Dume isn't just a historian writing from

2:13.0

a distance. She's also a Christian who grew up within the Evangelical subculture we're all trying

2:18.0

to understand. Welcome to Episode 1 of Jesus and John Wayne. Kristen Dume, welcome back to the Holy

2:31.5

Post. Thank you. It's really good to be back. Yeah, and this is just the start of hours of

2:36.8

conversation. We're going to be having about Jesus and John Wayne. First of all, congratulations on

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