Jessie & Lennie Ware, Nadine Shah, Naomi Wolf & The Beauty Myth 30 years on

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.1 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2020

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Popstar turned podcaster Jessie Ware and her mum Lennie Ware discuss working together in their hit podcast Table Manners where they cook dinner for a different celebrity every week. Should racing be doing more to celebrate the fact that it is one of the few sports where men and women compete in the same events? We speak to Jockey Lizzie Kelly - the first woman to win a Grade One race in Britain and now holder of two Grade Ones and two Cheltenham Festival winners. As Cheltenham starts again this year she joins us to discuss Just Jockeys, a campaign by Great British Racing. It was International Women's Day yesterday and one of the events to mark the occasion took place at the Roundhouse in North London. Part of the BBC Radio 6 Music Festival it featured an all female line up. Nadine Shah began yesterday's performance. She spoke to reporter Georgie Rogers. Thirty years ago saw the publication of The Beauty Myth. In it, the author, Naomi Wolf argued that the pressure to be beautiful was what she described as ‘a cultural conspiracy’ and ‘the last, best belief system that keeps male dominance intact What, we ask, has changed three decades on?

Presenter: Jenni Murray Interviewed guest: Jessie Ware Interviewed guest: Lennie Ware Interviewed guest: Lizzie Kelly Interviewed guest: Nadine Shah Interviewed guest: Naomi Wolf Reporter: Georgie Rogers Producer: Lucinda Montefiore

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0:00.0	Just before this BBC podcast gets underway, here's something you may not know.
0:04.6	My name's Linda Davies and I Commission Podcasts for BBC Sounds.
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0:41.0	Hello Jenny Murray welcoming you to the Women's Our Podcast for Monday, the 9th of March.
0:47.0	Good morning.
0:48.0	30 years ago, Naomi Wolf wrote a book called The Beauty Myth.
0:52.0	She argued, the pressure to be beautiful
0:54.4	was a cultural conspiracy to keep women in their place. What's changed in 30 years?
1:00.1	The BBC's Radio 6 Music Festival took place over the weekend and last night
1:04.4	International Women's Day there was an all-female lineup. We'll hear from one of the
1:08.8	participants the Mercury Award nominated Nadine Shah. And as the races at Cheltenham begin, the women who ride
1:16.0	who want to be described as just jockeys as they compete alongside the men. Now Jesse Ware used to be best known for her singing and songwriting.
1:27.0	She is arguably now even better known in partnership with her mother Lennyware, with whom she publishes a weekly
1:34.8	podcast called Table Manners. The two women cook her Friday night dinner to
1:39.3	which they invite a guest, Sam Smith, Ed Sheer and Joe Brand and Paloma Faith to name but a few.
1:45.4	It's been going for three years and attracts millions of listeners.
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