Jesse Singal and Coleman Hughes
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.6 • 863 Ratings
🗓️ 15 August 2024
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Summary
Two of the internet’s most intellectual contrarians sit down in a park with Josh. Magic ensues.
Jesse is among the world's most astute analysts of internet nonsense. He became a lightning rod when his 2018 Atlantic cover story was the first deeply reported mainstream article to question child transgender medicine.
His punishment was swift and severe, driving him into the netherworld of Podcastistan where his hit show with Katie Herzog, Blocked and Reported, analyses the pieties and group think of internet tribes. His own Substack is here.
Today's other guest is the most articulate, clear-headed contemporary thinker on race and social justice, tribalism and civil rights. He's been on The View, Real Time with Bill Maher and Joe Rogan. He's triggered a backlash from social justice warriors at the Ted conference with a Ted speech that transgressed racial taboos by calling for colourblind equality. His podcast is Conversations with Coleman and his Substack is here.
This episode is the audio of a YouTube video shot in New York City in early spring. Check it out here. It’s cool. (Oh, and subscribe to the YouTube channel, silly.)
Get tickets to see me and Coleman live in Melbourne here or at the festival of Dangerous Ideas in Sydney here.
For more, hit the Substack page at https://uncomfortableconversations.substack.com/subscribe
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| 0:00.0 | Gay, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. Actually, two dangerous ideas for the price of one, two guests today. |
| 0:09.1 | Wrestling with terrifying notions, such as the heresy that your race may not be the most important thing about you, |
| 0:18.0 | or the controversial idea that not every young person with gender dysphoria |
| 0:24.0 | needs to be fast-tracked into the opposite sex. These are ideas which today are being |
| 0:32.1 | reasserted by the radical center, which I regard myself as a prominent voice in. But there are ideas, |
| 0:39.9 | which as recently as 12 months ago, let alone three years ago, would only be uttered by a |
| 0:46.7 | journalist who wanted to spend half a day replying to complaints that he'd engaged in hate speech, |
| 0:52.8 | as I myself found myself doing, or at worst, |
| 0:57.4 | who wanted to be fired and excommunicated from the industry and face various other |
| 1:01.4 | horrendous public shaming backlashes as at least one of today's guests has. |
| 1:07.5 | This is the audio of a beautiful YouTube video shot on an early spring day in New York City with two brilliant heretics, each of whom has dabbled in those ideas that I just mentioned. |
| 1:22.8 | We sat down at a table in a park. |
| 1:25.3 | One of these gentlemen is coming to Australia. |
| 1:32.1 | Coleman Hughes, joining me live in conversation at the Festival of Dangerous Ideas in Sydney on the 25th of August. |
| 1:33.8 | Then the two of us are heading to Melbourne on the 28th of August. |
| 1:38.2 | Tickets are selling fast, but you can still get them at thejosh. |
| 1:41.8 | Show. |
| 1:42.4 | Do not miss us live. |
| 1:43.3 | They're also meet and greet tickets. So for a, you know, |
| 1:46.3 | a little, a little extra of your hard-earned cash, just a few extra shekels, but still very |
| 1:52.0 | reasonably priced, you can come and meet us and you can have a chat, have your photo taken, |
| 1:57.4 | hang out with us, you can buy our friendship for approximately three to four minutes |
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