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🗓️ 20 May 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
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On this week’s podcast, Rad interviews Jesse Gould, founder of the Heroic Hearts Project, Army Ranger veteran, and psychedelic therapy advocate. Jesse talks about the modalities of psychedelic treatment, its benefits for neurogenesis, and how it can bring controlled chaos to your mind to reset it.
Jesse talks about his deployments to Afghanistan and his realization that he was drinking way too much. And, more than that, he started observing his mental state take a turn for the worse.
He shares his discovery of ayahuasca as an alternative treatment. Seeing how none of his efforts as of yet were worth preserving, he decided to go down to Peru to seek a shaman. Jesse details the ceremony, how entering into a psychedelic state brings forth repressed traumas, and the unique way ayahuasca reframes trauma to break the cycle of PTSD.
However, not anyone should just jump in and try ayahuasca. There is preparation needed, both mentally and emotionally, as ayahuasca heightens your senses but your brain interprets the stimuli differently. Therefore, Jesse stresses that being in a safe space is paramount for psychedelic treatment.
Reach out to Jesse and the Heroic Hearts Project through the following links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesse-gould/
Website: https://www.heroicheartsproject.org/
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0:00.0 | You're listening to software, radio, special operations, military meals, and straight talk with the guys in the community. |
0:30.0 | Hey, what's going on? Welcome to another episode of Soft Rep Radio and video if you're watching us on any of those platforms. |
0:42.0 | My name is Rad and I am the host and I have a cool show today. |
0:46.0 | So I'm going to be talking about psychedelic treatments and I have a special guest and that's for military veterans and those who have suffered from some severe post-traumatic stress disorder and are looking to find another outlet. |
0:59.0 | So I've got Jesse Gold here and he is a former ranger with the United States Army. |
1:04.0 | Jesse, go ahead and do a little more introduction on yourself. Please tell us a little bit more about your rangerness, sir. |
1:11.0 | Yeah, absolutely. And a pleasure to be here, Rad. Glad to join you around the fire in the background. |
1:17.0 | So in terms of the military career, I actually joined after going to college and listed one in through ranger ended up at first battalion 75th Ranger Regiment in Savannah, Georgia. |
1:30.0 | And then over the course of my military career ended up being non-commissioned officer, section leader. So for a few of the deployments in charge of 30 or so junior rangers and deployed to Afghanistan three times, three different tours. |
1:46.0 | Let me ask you something. When you go out on a tour as a ranger in Afghanistan, are you going out for like a year at a time or is it like one of those 90 days spin? What am I hearing? Tell me how that kind of went. |
1:58.0 | Yeah, so a little bit in between. So Ranger has been one of the most constant, one of the most constant deployed sort of units. So there's three Ranger battalions and any given point, one of those battalions is always overseas. |
2:12.0 | And so they each is about four to five months. Sometimes they can be longer, sometimes they can be a bit shorter, but generally it's on average there. So essentially half the year you're training and then half the year you're deployed and you just rinse and repeat every year. |
2:28.0 | So sound uncommon for, you know, rangers who have been in for for quite a while to have 15 to 20 combat deployments under the belt, which in comparison is this be wild. |
2:40.0 | Right, because if that was even in a full year's length, like what the average, like maybe airmen that deploys to a base, you know, to maintain the base and everything for that year, you know, you, you're fast. You guys are high speed and just moving fast and constantly going into whatever mission is put in front of you, right? |
2:57.0 | And it has to be done with surgical capabilities where you guys are just going in. So your mind is constantly thinking and you have to always be like aware of everything and what I'm getting that is, you know, what you do is you work with soldiers who have been through that. |
3:12.0 | And who have been spun up real fast as Rangers and special operation forces guys to say, hey, hey, hey, hey, you got to go do this right now and you got to do this and all of a sudden there's like a concussion from a blast on the door that they had a user, anything like that. |
3:25.0 | And now they're dealing with maybe like a traumatic brain injury from such situations and the stress of those combat deployments 15, 15, five month deployments. That's a lot because Rangers are going in and just hitting it, right? |
3:39.0 | Yeah, so the reason it's a shorter sort of there's some units that do 12 and 16 years and it's not a comparison at all. There's people that are over there, they're doing some intense stuff, occupation and patrols. I wouldn't want to change pace, but the Ranger sort of style is, you know, high intensity sort of mission sets and high value targets. |
4:00.0 | And so, you know, they go in with very directive sort of action, raids, ambushes, other sort of methods and the opt tempo when you're over there is as pretty consistent. So you could be doing a mission every night, every couple of nights and just constantly going, constantly going. |
4:18.0 | And so it's pretty intense, but, you know, like a lot of other special apps too, the training is often even more intense because the whole idea behind it is to put you in situations where if the worst case scenario, you're going to be fully prepared, right? So you have training like, you know, the selection process in itself is very intense training like Ranger school, which is a big sort of multi month thing where you're just not sleeping, not eating and still doing missions like all these, like, |
4:47.0 | do their own wear and tear and then be even at home, just going to the ranges, all this training, it's like sometimes the deployments actually a little bit of a break because you're just doing your job and there's not much else. So it's just being in that that lifestyle, it's very intense, can be very hard on family. |
5:05.0 | So I guess we're I'm going with that Jesse here. Go ahead. |
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