Jerome Cohen on the Hong Kong protests and the law
Sinica Podcast
Kaiser Kuo
4.8 • 676 Ratings
🗓️ 31 October 2019
⏱️ 74 minutes
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Summary
In this live show taped at New York University on October 16, Jeremy and Kaiser spoke with Jerry Cohen, the doyen of American studies of Chinese law. We explore the legal foundations for the Hong Kong handover in 1997, and how imprecision has contributed to many of the difficulties playing out in Hong Kong's streets today.
5:43: Ambiguity in Hong Kong Basic Law
19:38: A look at the 2019 Hong Kong extradition bill
32:35: Changing repercussions for detained and imprisoned Hongkongers
37:59: Hong Kong’s legal system wilting under pressure from Beijing
51:08: The Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019
Recommendations:
Jeremy: A series of oral histories by Ben Mauk, Weather Reports: Voices from Xinjiang.
Jerry: The works of a few individuals shining a light on the atrocities occurring in Xinjiang: James Leibold, Jim Millward, and Adrian Zenz.
Kaiser: Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation, by Andrew Marantz.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this special live edition of the Cynica podcast, |
| 0:11.9 | the week of discussion of Kurd affairs in China, coming to you today from New York University. |
| 0:16.2 | Let me hear you make a little noise, NYU. |
| 0:23.8 | Yeah, all right. |
| 0:25.4 | The Cynical podcast is produced in partnership with SubChina. |
| 0:28.5 | And SubChina is simply the best way there is to keep on top of all the important news coming out of China. |
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| 0:42.7 | Signing up for sub-China access and you get all that and much more with stories and everything from the Belt and Road to local entrepreneurship and innovation in China. |
| 0:50.4 | From the travails of ethnically Chinese researchers here in the U.S. in this age of creeping |
| 0:55.1 | McCarthyism to China's ongoing extra-legal internment of hundreds of thousands and by some estimates |
| 1:01.2 | well over a million Uyghurs and other Muslims in China's Xinjiang region. We are sure you'll agree |
| 1:06.4 | it's a feast of business, political, and cultural news about a nation that is reshaping the world. |
| 1:13.0 | I am Kaiser Guo, and this, of course, is Jeremy Goldcorn, editor-in-chief of Sub-China, |
| 1:17.5 | a man of great and unmatched wisdom. |
| 1:20.4 | Say hello, a wise one. |
| 1:22.6 | I'll call you. |
| 1:25.8 | Next to him on his right is Rod Klong, Jeremy's invisible friend and alter ego. |
| 1:32.3 | And actually, he is the source for many of the colorful quotes on SubChina. Say hello, |
| 1:36.3 | Rod Klong. Oh, you don't exist? Rod Klong doesn't exist. Well, I'll have to ask Ron Vara then maybe. |
| 1:43.3 | Perhaps. Perhaps. We'll come next time. Today we're have to ask Ron Vara then maybe. Perhaps. |
| 1:45.0 | We'll come next time. |
| 1:47.0 | Today we're going to try to better understand the situation in Hong Kong through the lens of the law. |
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