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Bad Gays

Jeremy Thorpe

Bad Gays

Huw Lemmey & Ben Miller

History

4.6 • 842 Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2020

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

This is a story of sex, death and political malfeasance that will make Teddy Kennedy look like Anne of Green Gables. It has everything you’ve come to expect from a Bad Gays story about the English upper classes — psychosexual repression, violence, class prejudice, hypocrisy, the brutality and cheapness of life at the heart of the political system, and plenty of people named things like Rupert, Auberon and Emlyn. =Content warning for child sexual abuse in the early parts of this story= But as ridiculous and kinky as the fruity rulers of Britain are, the story is darker than that. This story is also about the way the law is impervious to the informal networks of power in the British establishment, and how homosexuality was subject to a series of double standards, tolerated in the powerful but suppressed in the ordinary citizen, practiced in private and denied in public. Today we’re discussing the life of a man whose sexuality stole his chance at power, the MP and leader of the Liberal Party, the Right Honorable Jeremy Thorpe. Visit our website at badgayspod.com for t-shirts, our Patreon, and an episode archive. ----more---- SOURCES: Bloch, Michael. Jeremy Thorpe. London: Time Warner Books, 2004.   Freeman, Simon, and Barrie Penrose. Rinkagate: The Rise and Fall of Jeremy Thorpe. London: Bloomsbury Publishing Plc, 1996.   Preston, John. A Very English Scandal: Sex, Lies, and a Murder Plot at the Heart of the Establishment. Illustrated edition. New York: Other Press, 2016.   Thorpe, Jeremy. In My Own Time: Reminiscences of a Liberal Leader. Edited by Duncan Brack. London: Politico’s Publishing Ltd, 1999.   Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien, downloaded from WFMU's Free Music Archive and distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Season 4 Episode 3 of Bad Gays, a podcast about evil and complicated queries in history.

0:22.3

I'm Ben Miller, a writer, researcher, and member of the board of the Shulis Museum in Berlin.

0:27.5

And I'm Hugh Lemmy, a writer and author.

0:30.1

Last week, we talked about Liberace, a spangly pianist who managed to hide the open secret of his homosexuality for his middle-aged, middle-class fans.

0:39.9

Who are we going to talk about this week, Hugh?

0:42.9

Well, just before I start this week, I'd like to give a brief content warning,

0:46.3

because there is some discussion of child sexual abuse in the early parts of this story.

0:50.0

So please bear that in mind before you listen on.

0:54.8

This is a story of sex, death and political malfeasance.

0:58.3

It has everything you've come to expect from a bad gay story

1:00.7

about the English upper classes,

1:02.9

psychosexual repression, violence, class prejudice, hypocrisy,

1:06.9

and plenty of people named things like Rupert, Oberon and Emmeline.

1:16.6

But as ridiculous and kinky as the fruity rulers of Britain are, the story is even darker than that. This story is also about the way the law is impervious to the informal networks of power in the British establishment,

1:22.6

and how homosexuality was subject to a series of double standards,

1:26.6

tolerated in the powerful,

1:28.3

but suppressed in the ordinary citizen, practiced in private and denied in public.

1:32.3

It goes some way to demonstrating the truly incredible class solidarity that exists and operates in the UK,

1:39.3

and how morality and law are at best tools for maintaining power from which the established establishment

1:44.8

regard themselves as exempt. You might have heard the name of our subject before, often as part of a

1:50.7

lighthearted joke, and yet hopefully in this episode will go some way to uncovering the story

1:55.6

as it really is, a remarkable example of the brutality and cheapness of life at the heart of the political

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