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🗓️ 9 December 2021
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0:00.0 | Good evening, current affairs listeners. My name is Nathan Robinson. I'm the editor of Current Affairs Magazine, and I am here tonight with one of my favorite thinkers and writers. |
0:22.1 | I think one of the most profound people I've read, |
0:24.7 | and one of the most interesting, |
0:26.1 | the author of both the patterning instinct |
0:30.1 | and the new book, The Web of Meaning. |
0:34.0 | I first came across his work when I was writing about Stephen Pinker, and he had written |
0:39.8 | a wonderful debunking of some of the claims made by the kind of Panglossian school of thought |
0:47.1 | that Stephen Picker represents. But I'm here with Mr. Jeremy Lent. Hello, Jeremy. |
0:53.3 | Hi, Nathan. It's such a pleasure to be in conversation |
0:55.6 | with you. Thank you. Well, I really have been looking forward to meeting you because, and I would |
1:01.6 | already recommend that all of our listeners pick up your new book, The Web of Meaning, because it made |
1:06.5 | me cry at various points. It's very beautiful. And it does something that I think is so necessary. |
1:14.7 | And this is what I want to get into with you, which is that I think a lot of us have an |
1:21.6 | understanding of all the problems with contemporary society and with the human approach to nature |
1:27.3 | and such. And we'll discuss that. |
1:29.3 | But what you try and do is you try and lay a new philosophical foundation for how we can think |
1:34.8 | about the world differently. It's a very constructive book. But I want to start with you with |
1:40.9 | where things have gone wrong and awry and why you feel this this new foundation |
1:46.8 | it needs to be laid. And so let's start with what you call in the book, the Uncle Bob story. |
1:55.1 | Absolutely. Yeah. You want me to lay out Uncle Bob. Oh, yeah, Uncle Bob. Yeah. Well, he want me to lay out Uncle Bob. |
2:01.3 | Yeah, Uncle Bob. |
2:04.4 | He's actually a character who joins us right from the beginning of the book. |
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