Jenny Odell Saves Time, and Herself, by Living Beyond the Clock

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🗓️ 10 March 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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What if time isn’t money? What if time is actually rocks and beans? And what if time is not running out? Jenny Odell, author of “How to Do Nothing,” ponders these questions as she takes us on a road trip through the Bay Area in her new book, “Saving Time.” Pausing at the Port of Oakland, reflecting in Pescadero and Pacifica, and nodding at the Interstate 880 minion, Odell questions who benefits when we see time as hours or minutes, rather than the changes in place, space and ourselves. She joins us to explain how advocating for a better future begins with looking beyond the clock. Guests: Jenny Odell, author, "Saving Time: Discovering A Life Beyond the Clock." Odell is also the author of "How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:07.2	In her new book, Jenny O'Dell, the author of The Best Selling How to Do Nothing, introduces us to many new ways to think about time.
1:11.4	She gives us a German word, Zeitgeber, which means something that organizes and patterns your time, like a kid's nap schedule, or the MPR clock, or the traffic on the bridge.
1:17.6	And I don't know how I ever lived without this word. Drawing on a huge variety of philosophers,
1:22.9	indigenous traditions, and modes of thought, Odell encourages us to clock out, to stretch the concept of time,
1:28.8	to see our days as something more than a spreadsheet of minutes to be filled in. Would it be possible,
1:33.4	she writes, not to save and spend time, but to garden it by saving, inventing, and stewarding
1:38.5	different rhythms of life? Jenny Odell's coming up after this news.
1:53.0	Welcome to Forum. I'm Alexis Madrigal. One lesson that emerges from Jenny O'Dell's new book, Saving Time, is that the rigid clock, that creation of capital and
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