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On Being with Krista Tippett

Jennifer Michael Hecht — 'We Believe Each Other Into Being'

On Being with Krista Tippett

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4.710.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

“We are indebted to one another and the debt is a kind of faith — a beautiful, difficult, strange faith. We believe each other into being.” That’s the message the philosopher, poet, and historian, Jennifer Michael Hecht, puts at the center of her unusual writing about suicide. She’s traced how Western civilization has, at times, demonized those who died by suicide, and, at times, celebrated it as a moral freedom. She has struggled with suicidal places in her life and lost friends to it. She proposes a new cultural understanding based on our essential need for each other.

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Support for on-being with Christa Tippett comes from the Fetzer Institute, helping build the

0:04.4

spiritual foundation for a loving world. Fetzer envisions a world that embraces love as a guiding

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principle and animating force for our lives, a powerful love that helps us live in sacred

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relationship with ourselves, others, and the natural world. Learn more by visiting Fetzer.org.

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Jennifer Michael Hecht writes this,

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We are indebted to one another, and the debt is a kind of faith, a beautiful, difficult,

0:30.2

strange faith. We believe each other into being. That's the message this philosopher poet and

0:37.2

historian puts at the center of her unusual writing about suicide. She's traced how Western

0:43.4

civilization has at times demonized those who died by suicide, at times celebrated it as a moral

0:50.2

freedom. She has struggled with suicidal places in her life and lost friends to it, and she

0:56.4

proposes a new cultural understanding based not on morality or on rights, but on our essential

1:03.2

need for each other. Your staying alive means so much more than you really know or that anyone

1:11.5

is aware of at this moment, but we're in it together in this profound way and you can take some

1:18.0

strength from that. I'm Christa Tippett and this is on Being. I spoke with Jennifer Michael Hecht in

1:24.8

2014 after she published Stay, a history of suicide and the philosophies against it. And I also

1:32.0

interviewed her once before in the early years of this show about her glowing work on the forgotten

1:37.6

history of doubt as a graceful life philosophy. I can't remember if I asked you this when I

1:47.2

talked to you before. This has just become a stock question for me. I ask everybody this question

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to begin, which is, was there a spiritual or religious background to your childhood?

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Yes, there was. My father was a Jewish atheist physicist still is. That's a great tradition.

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That's a great language. It really is.

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Yes. My mom believed in Judaism and the Jewish God and she was in charge of our spirituality

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